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Old 02-29-2008, 01:09 AM  
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Jonathan Vilma traded to Saints for a conditional 2009 draft pick.

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Old 02-29-2008, 09:48 AM   #46
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There in lies the problem.

Our scouts are a lot of the reason we are in this mess. Their evaluations of guys have hurt us just as much as the activity in FA.
I agree with this, but how much of that points at the Vermeil regime?
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:52 AM   #47
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True. But there IS such a thing as poker talk.
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I think we only need to be looking at FA's like Boone...the guy wasn't even a starter....he was great value

draft this year, play the young guys, get another round of high picks next year and then start looking at FA's to fill gaps....i just think we're a year away from needing to care about FA at all....

with one exception: WR....there is an abundance of #2/3 WRs available this year, and I hope we pick one up....
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:53 AM   #48
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I agree with this, but how much of that points at the Vermeil regime?
And how much of the blame falls on Gunt?

It was his wish list that got us guys like Kendrell Bell and Sammy Knight.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:53 AM   #49
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And how much of the blame falls on Gunt?

It was his wish list that got us guys like Kendrell Bell and Sammy Knight.

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Old 02-29-2008, 09:53 AM   #50
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And how much of the blame falls on Gunt?

It was his wish list that got us guys like Kendrell Bell and Sammy Knight.
Good point. The one guy he wanted that would have been worth it didn't even make it here - Julian Peterson.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:54 AM   #51
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:55 AM   #52
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And how much of the blame falls on Gunt?

It was his wish list that got us guys like Kendrell Bell and Sammy Knight.
All of it has to.

He ****ing wanted Hall, Knight, Bell, Surtain, Siavii.

This old back of shit set this roster back more than Vermeil.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:57 AM   #53
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Jenkins has done a lot of damage to his body....giving big money to DT pushing 30 with multiple injuries? no thanks, that's Carl's worn out philosophy...

his best days are clearly behind him, as are Faneca's....rebuilding franchises should not be signing these guys...

for once we are doing it right....
Jenkins hurt his shoulder in 2004 and blew out his ACL in 2005. he's been healthy for 2 consecutive years now. and who's giving him big money? the Jets didn't sign him as a FA, it was a trade. I disagree about Faneca, but we'll have to wait and see about that.

I wouldn't call these pickups ''rebuilding the franchise'', they are more like essential plugs in some gaping holes.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:57 AM   #54
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no, you're not....FA has got us nowhere....there will be FA's every year...

seriously, people are crying about not signing Faine? wake up people...
If the choice is between signing Faine and keeping Waters at LG, or not signing Faine and moving Waters to center and hoping to fill the OL with 3 rookies, then I certainly would have preferred the Faine option.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:58 AM   #55
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If the choice is between signing Faine and keeping Waters at RG, or not signing Faine and moving Waters to center and hoping to fill the OL with 3 rookies, then I certainly would have preferred the Faine option.
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If the choice is between signing Faine and keeping Waters at LG, or not signing Faine and moving Waters to center and hoping to fill the OL with 3 rookies, then I certainly would have preferred the Faine option.
I'd rather play the rookies...
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All of it has to.

He ****ing wanted Hall, Knight, Bell, Surtain, Siavii.

This old back of shit set this roster back more than Vermeil.
In the end, all the blame falls back on Carl.

It was clear that Spinner needed to go, but Carl brings Gunt back and gives him the keys to the defense?

That's ****ing stupidity of the highest order.

Sad thing is, these same dumb****s are still here.
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In the end, all the blame falls back on Carl.

It was clear that Spinner needed to go, but Carl brings Gunt back and gives him the keys to the defense?

That's ****ing stupidity of the highest order.

Sad thing is, these same dumb****s are still here.
An interesting hindsight discussion -

Who was available at the time Robinson got canned, or who has moved into a D-Coordinator position with success since Gunt came home?
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I'd rather play the rookies...
Which rookies?
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An interesting hindsight discussion -

Who was available at the time Robinson got canned, or who has moved into a D-Coordinator position with success since Gunt came home?
I think I might have been clamoring for a Raven LB coach or a Buc asst at the time.

Don't really remember specifics.
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