The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12


Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by opposition

Kaepernick is just a special player. And yes many of us did, just didn't realize he was ready at the time. He's better than 90% of the starters in the league including Alex. I have no shame in admitting that. Kaep has an added dimension with his legs(not being racist for saying the truth), more arm strength.

Kaep can be an elite QB, while Alex is a good QB.

Well then, after watching the YEARS of magnitude suck that is the KC Chiefs, can you fault us for wanting to do what the 49ers did (take a chance on a QB in the draft) instead of settling for a mediocre QB who has worse career stats than Matt Cassel?

The majority of people on this forum understand what it takes to win in this league and are pushing for ELITE, not settling for "Good" or "manageable".

Go back to your forum and take this message.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by opposition

Funny how everyone is calling me a racist yet they are spewing complete hate at me. That makes sense. I haven't even said a bad word to anybody, just making the case that Alex will better your team and a lot of you spew hate. That's okay though. That's not racist that just being a horrible person.

You're a stupid ****ing racist bastard.


I hope you enjoy Dane ****ing your mother, because it is going to happen.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I rarely ever answer a "yes or no" question. If you want black or white answers argue with someone else. Both sides of almost all issues have merits in their arguments. This one is not bereft of that. As I always say, life happens in shades of grey. **** black or white. People who are black or white thinkers often **** up royally because they have definitive opinions but no solutions for either side.

I am disappointed that we may not have a very good alternative to taking a QB most teams wouldn't take until maybe 15th or 16th in most drafts. But I have also said that if that's the Chiefs will do, I'll accept it. I'm also realistic enough to know none of us here are doing the picking, but some take it so seriously that they resort to insults for the other person with a different opinion.

So basically you'll never pick a side because that would mean that you would end up wrong at some point in time. You'd rather not be pointed out as being wrong....so you'll be wishy washy the entire ****ing time.

Great to know.

[Marvin49]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

So, we need to get Charles MORE yards??? because him being one of the best backs in football already has done us SO WELL!

Did you see Kaepernick as a future super star? Exactly. Teams HAVE TO TAKE A CHANCE, not settle for other teams scrubs. The 49ers know Alex Smith is not good enough and that is why he is being shopped. If he was good enough, you assholes would still be starting him next season.

The 49ers liked Kaep...ALOT....and took him in the SECOND ROUND.

They could have taken Gabbert, Ponder, Locker, and Dalton.

They didn't...they took Aldon Smith and then moved up in round 2 for Kaep.

Lets be real here for a second too....there were lots of peeps who DIDN'T like the pick of Kaep in round 2. He was from a "gimmich offense" and had a funky delivery.

I've been round and round on this one. I am not advocatting the Cheifs trade for Alex Smith. I think he's much better than you guys give him credit for, but I understand the idea that you want "your own guy" who just might have a chance at greatness.

I just don't happen to think that Geno is that guy. He reminds me of too many spread QBs in college who flammed out in the pros.

[Marvin49]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Well then, after watching the YEARS of magnitude suck that is the KC Chiefs, can you fault us for wanting to do what the 49ers did (take a chance on a QB in the draft) instead of settling for a mediocre QB who has worse career stats than Matt Cassel?

The majority of people on this forum understand what it takes to win in this league and are pushing for ELITE, not settling for "Good" or "manageable".

Go back to your forum and take this message.

Again....Kaep taken in SECOND ROUND. NOT first overall...or even 7th overall which was the pick they had.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by opposition

I can't believe fans would want an upgrade at the QB position and would rather sacrifice a #1 pick on a player of Geno's caliber. What if he comes out and flops? You guys are doomed for years to come.

Bring in a guy like Alex Smith who has played extremely well the past two seasons, and even if he doesn't work out you still have at least a guy that brings leadership, doesn't make mistakes, 18-5(19-6 w/ playoffs), and 2 of his last 4 games were about as perfect as you can have. 18/19 for 233 and 3 tds, 8/9 1 td his game he was hurt and his 300 yard 3td game against the Bills in which he was nearly perfect as well. Not to mention leading the league in completion percentage, QBR, td/int ratio (remember 3 of his 5 were in one game in which he had a broken finger).

This idea that the media has portrayed on Alex has obviously gotten to fans here. Alex may not be an explosive QB that everyone wants but he is no Matt Cassel. With him being coached by Reid running a WCO in which he has plenty of experience, with him having Charles as a RB with a decent line, I think Alex could win your division for you.

If not at the very least you have a stop gap that is better than any of these other guys I've seen mentioned. Alex has 2 years in a row of playing well, Matt Flynn has 2 games. Matt Cassell? Go ahead and stay with him and see how far you go.

Kill yourself. And nevar procreate.
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[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Marvin49

The 49ers liked Kaep...ALOT....and took him in the SECOND ROUND.

They could have taken Gabbert, Ponder, Locker, and Dalton.

They didn't...they took Aldon Smith and then moved up in round 2 for Kaep.

Lets be real here for a second too....there were lots of peeps who DIDN'T like the pick of Kaep in round 2. He was from a "gimmich offense" and had a funky delivery.

I've been round and round on this one. I am not advocatting the Cheifs trade for Alex Smith. I think he's much better than you guys give him credit for, but I understand the idea that you want "your own guy" who just might have a chance at greatness.

I just don't happen to think that Geno is that guy. He reminds me of too many spread QBs in college who flammed out in the pros.

I guess you're a believer in guys that ran the pistol in college then huh?

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Marvin49

The 49ers liked Kaep...ALOT....and took him in the SECOND ROUND.

They could have taken Gabbert, Ponder, Locker, and Dalton.

They didn't...they took Aldon Smith and then moved up in round 2 for Kaep.

Lets be real here for a second too....there were lots of peeps who DIDN'T like the pick of Kaep in round 2. He was from a "gimmich offense" and had a funky delivery.

I've been round and round on this one. I am not advocatting the Cheifs trade for Alex Smith. I think he's much better than you guys give him credit for, but I understand the idea that you want "your own guy" who just might have a chance at greatness.

I just don't happen to think that Geno is that guy. He reminds me of too many spread QBs in college who flammed out in the pros.

And you remind me of those children I read about who suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome.

[opposition]

Originally Posted by Sorter

You're a stupid ****ing racist bastard.


I hope you enjoy Dane ****ing your mother, because it is going to happen.

It's called stereo typing not being racist.

[Molitoth]

I just don't happen to think that Geno is that guy. He reminds me of too many spread QBs in college who flammed out in the pros.

How much film have you watched? Just a highlight video or two, mixed in with whatever NFLN/ESPN decide to breakdown?

I just don't understand after studying Geno Smith how people would be scared.....

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by opposition

It's called stereo typing not being racist.

No, it is called being a ****ing moronic racist.

Get ****ed.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by opposition

It's called stereo typing not being racist.

You're from Utah aren't you? Do they even have black people in Utah?

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Marvin49

Again....Kaep taken in SECOND ROUND. NOT first overall...or even 7th overall which was the pick they had.

If you knew Kaep was going to be as good as he is, would you take him as the #1 overall pick.... or would that be reaching?

The point is. QB is our HIGHEST need BY FAR, and we just happen to have the #1 overall pick. That seems like GREAT VALUE to me... especially considering there is not any so called "Can't miss ELITE" prospects that you can't pass up in this draft.

[WV]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

How much film have you watched? Just a highlight video or two, mixed in with whatever NFLN/ESPN decide to breakdown?

I just don't understand after studying Geno Smith how people would be scared.....

Funny how he says that with Kaep as their QB. I won't bother looking up the quotes, but I bet the same or similar was said about him.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I rarely ever answer a "yes or no" question. If you want black or white answers argue with someone else. Both sides of almost all issues have merits in their arguments. This one is not bereft of that. As I always say, life happens in shades of grey. **** black or white. People who are black or white thinkers often **** up royally because they have definitive opinions but no solutions for either side.

I am disappointed that we may not have a very good alternative to taking a QB most teams wouldn't take until maybe 15th or 16th in most drafts. But I have also said that if that's the Chiefs will do, I'll accept it. I'm also realistic enough to know none of us here are doing the picking, but some take it so seriously that they resort to insults for the other person with a different opinion.

But Frankie... the alternative is taking a LT most teams wouldn't take until 12 or 13 in most drafts. Or a DE most teams wouldn't take until 15 or 16. Or a CB most teams wouldn't take until then, either.

If that's the case, why wring hands about taking a QB? All things being equal, the guy with the most positional value has the more potential reward.