Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-23-2007, 12:29 PM  
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is online now
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $4560478
The Bitter Buc

http://chiefs.scout.com/2/653840.html

One of the worst things you can do in any profession is burn the bridges you built when first breaking in to the job. While it might feel good for a fleeting moment or two, in the long run it will come back to haunt you in some way.

This doesn’t just apply to office workers and the average blue-collar American. It applies to professional athletes, too – even the high-dollar prima donnas in the NFL.

Most recently, it applies to defensive tackle Ryan Sims – currently of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, formerly of the Kansas City Chiefs, but apparently, a life-long member of the Sour Grapes Club.

In Thursday’s edition of Tampa’s Herald Tribune , Sims went off on Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards. He accused him of creating a negative atmosphere in Kansas City, and blew the lid off a shocking scandal in which he claims 28 Chiefs’ veterans requested trades out of Kansas City last season.

This is nothing new. If you’ve been paying attention, Sims has been doing this since the middle of last season. The Kansas City Star featured Sims as part of a November article in which the defensive tackle complained about being relegated to backup status. He blamed Edwards for not giving him a chance and basically playing favorites between Sims and the new defensive tackles the team signed that offseason (James Reed and Ron Edwards).

That led to his eventual exodus from Kansas City and arrival in Tampa Bay, where his first action was to – you guessed it – rip the Chiefs.

Last month, on Tampa Bay’s website, Sims basically accused the Chiefs of not investing in the defense, stating that Tampa Bay was his dream location and paradise on earth for NFL defensive lineman. He reiterated his comments about being KC’s black sheep.

It’s not difficult to understand why Sims is taking the low road with all of this. Before Edwards arrived in Kansas City, Sims was guaranteed a starting spot. That all changed when the Chiefs signed Reed and Edwards.

By dumping Sims down the depth chart, the Chiefs essentially made him a second-class NFL citizen, which is where he is right now in Tampa Bay. The Tribune classified his current plight with the Buccaneers as “fighting for a roster spot.”

Now, I don’t have to tell Chiefs fans about how absurd Sims’ comments are. Everyone knows two of Herm’s favorite catchphrases are “It’s okay” and “We’re fine.” For a team apparently playing under the cruel whip of such spirit-destroying overlords, the Chiefs’ defense fought to the last man against Peyton Manning and the Colts in the playoffs last season.

And clearly, 28 players seeking a trade is ridiculous. Sims claimed that “every starter” was trying to get out of Kansas City. Does that include the players Edwards brought into the organization? How could it possibly include the 11 defensive starters – including leftovers from the Dick Vermeil era – that enjoyed KC’s best defensive season in almost a decade?

How about the 11 offensive starters? Why would aging veterans like Will Shields, Casey Wiegmann, Trent Green and Eddie Kennison want to uproot their lives in Kansas City just to play a season or two more somewhere else?

Tony Gonzalez might be KC’s highest-profile citizen and has stated numerous times he wants to finish his career as a Chief. Are we supposed to believe he confessed his true desires in a late-night gossip session with Sims and all the other disgruntled Chiefs? I’m looking forward to a potential book authored by Sims on this subject, because I do enjoy a good work of fiction.

But Sims’ latest rant goes beyond absurdity. In fact, he’s delving into hypocrisy.

During his last training camp as a Chief, Sims had a private conversation with Edwards concerning his future and role on the team. How did he characterize the meeting?

“I thought it was a very positive conversation,” Sims said in the Star. “I had some fundamental questions.”

“Herm is going to tell you what he feels and how he feels about you,” Sims continued. “I really appreciate that, and I’m glad he’s the type of guy I feel like I can talk to in front of the media or behind closed doors.”

Do those quotes sound like Sims thought a negative atmosphere was being fostered in training camp last season?

Now let’s take it one step further, and look at this conversation from Herm’s side of the table. Clearly, if he was such a negative man, he’d have something nasty to say about Sims, right? Here’s a quote from an article that appeared on Warpaint Illustrated’s website last August:

“We had a good talk before the spring ended,” Edwards said. “We were talking about what I expected out of him and how we were going to get it done. He’s done a great job of playing. He’s competing and is playing up to his talent level consistently.”

Does that sound like a negative person?

Now let’s take a look at what Edwards had to say when an injury to James Reed forced Sims onto the field. Keep in mind this quote appeared in the same Star article wherein Sims complained about his status in Kansas City.

“He’s been solid,” said Edwards. “I think he’s becoming better the more he plays.”

Negative? If anyone was negative at the time, it was Sims, throwing a pity party for one.

Clearly, Cryin’ Sims is as two-faced as they come in this business. One wonders what he might say when the Chiefs face the Buccaneers next season (Kansas City last played the NFC South in 2004, which would make for a possible Chiefs-Bucs matchup in 2008).

One thing is certain: Should he become the next great defensive tackle as a Tampa Bay Buccaneer and enjoy a Hall of Fame career, Edwards won’t be the one introducing him in Canton.
Posts: 278,352
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2007, 10:13 PM   #31
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $2467050
I guess they can atleast say they saw a Superbowl that's more than I got.
Posts: 111,021
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2007, 10:18 PM   #32
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
Gimme My Berries Back!
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $3319963
The Bitter Buc?
Posts: 161,924
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2007, 10:55 PM   #33
Al Bundy Al Bundy is offline
Damnit Peg
 
Al Bundy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Overland Park
Casino cash: $5331831
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Doesn't matter. The Bucs "tradition" was was forged in the last ten years. KC's was forged 40 years ago.
Yes.. that is when they won their loan superbowl you are correct. But for many many years they were just as down as the Bucs. One thing that the Chiefs have and will always have on the Bucs is the home field advantage. I don't ever pull out the stupid "At least my team has won the superbowl since your team won a playoff game". However over the past 10 years the Bucs have been more successful.
Posts: 23,320
Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Al Bundy has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 02:03 PM   #34
B_Ambuehl B_Ambuehl is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Casino cash: $9805405
Quote:
He's not lieing about a lot of veterans being less than happy though. Even Trent Green said they are basically bringing these young guys in because they are naivete and don't know any better.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What veterans are you talking about?? Sims, Hicks, Wesley, Black, Warfield???


We are talking about a bunch of vets who never accomplished one damn thing as a team and were over-coddled by DV who never admitted they ever did anything wrong.

I see no problem with bringing in young kids to take their jobs. Good riddance.
I don't know what vets he's talking about and I don't disagree that it would be better to get rid of many of them, but the fact is the article seems to imply that Sims was making up things when he said that there were a lot of vets that were unhappy in K.C. and wanted out - Yet Trent got on the radio and basically said the exact same thing. He said he and many other vets were unhappy with the offense and lack of communication and that they were bringing in young guys who were too naivete to question anything.
__________________
Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman

C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with"

LOL
Posts: 2,605
B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.B_Ambuehl has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 02:29 PM   #35
Rasputin Rasputin is offline
Tip of the hat LIV Champs
 
Rasputin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ks
Casino cash: $3345421
Ryan Simms can Buc OFF!!!
Posts: 54,975
Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rasputin is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 02:33 PM   #36
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $4263447
Quote:
Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight
Yes.. that is when they won their loan superbowl you are correct. But for many many years they were just as down as the Bucs.
"Many many years" > "the majority of the time they've been a team."

Guess which one's KC, and guess which one's TB.
Posts: 59,301
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 02:34 PM   #37
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $4263447
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea
The Bitter Buc?
You, obviously, Professor.
Posts: 59,301
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 02:38 PM   #38
BigRock BigRock is offline
Pritay Pritay Pritay Good
 
BigRock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The State of Euphoria
Casino cash: $3305412
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost in the Mail
Clearly, Cryin’ Sims is as two-faced as they come in this business.
Wouldn't "Cryin' Ryan" have worked better? 'Cause, you know, it rhymes and all. Rhyming is fun.
Posts: 6,779
BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRock wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 02:43 PM   #39
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is online now
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $4560478
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRock
Wouldn't "Cryin' Ryan" have worked better? 'Cause, you know, it rhymes and all. Rhyming is fun.
Cryin' sounds like Ryan. It's my "TrINT." I'm breaking new ground here.
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 278,352
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 03:05 PM
ENDelt260
This message has been deleted by ENDelt260.
Old 06-24-2007, 03:28 PM   #40
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $3864454
Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl
Yet Trent got on the radio and basically said the exact same thing. He said he and many other vets were unhappy with the offense and lack of communication and that they were bringing in young guys who were too naivete to question anything.
Its just sour grapes. All vets do this to some extent.

Trent never accomplished anything in KC either except a few flashy stats.
__________________
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
Posts: 66,914
Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 04:14 PM   #41
Ugly Duck Ugly Duck is offline
MVP
 
Ugly Duck's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Petaluma, CA, USA
Casino cash: $9955920
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost in the Mail
28 Chiefs’ veterans requested trades out of Kansas City last season - every starter was trying to get out of Kansas City
Wutta buncha crybaby wimps! you fanz should petition to have every starter thrown off the team for being a bunch of sissy babies!
__________________
“In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.” ― Carl Sagan
Posts: 10,146
Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Ugly Duck is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 07:38 PM   #42
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl
I don't know what vets he's talking about and I don't disagree that it would be better to get rid of many of them, but the fact is the article seems to imply that Sims was making up things when he said that there were a lot of vets that were unhappy in K.C. and wanted out - Yet Trent got on the radio and basically said the exact same thing. He said he and many other vets were unhappy with the offense and lack of communication and that they were bringing in young guys who were too naivete to question anything.
Except for the fact that Sims didn't say "a lot of vets were unhappy".

He said "28 vets requested trades" which is flat-out FALSE.

There aren't even 28 Vermeil era vets still on the team.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 07:43 PM   #43
Bugeater Bugeater is offline
The Maintenance Guy
 
Bugeater's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate
Casino cash: $6242680
Quote:
Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Whenever I hear Cryin' Ryan, it's immediately followed by Leaf.
Nah, he's Cryin' Thief. Nevertheless, GoChiefs isn't breaking any new ground.
Posts: 70,443
Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 07:45 PM   #44
FAX FAX is offline
testing ... 1, 2, 3
 
FAX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tennessee
Casino cash: $6753759
Actually the fact that there aren't 28 DV veterans still on the roster is kind of amazing to me.

Let's count 'em. I'll start.

1. Tony G.
2. Waters
3. Kennison
4. LJ (does he count as a vet?)
5. Jared Allen
6. Jason Dunn
7. Colquitt
8. Boomer
9. DJ
10. First Down Samie
11. Sapp??
12. Wiegmann
13. Wilson

Who else?

FAX
Posts: 44,492
FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2007, 07:54 PM   #45
Logical Logical is offline
Screw U if U can't take a joke
 
Logical's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe
Except for the fact that Sims didn't say "a lot of vets were unhappy".

He said "28 vets requested trades" which is flat-out FALSE.

There aren't even 28 Vermeil era vets still on the team.
Well since people are being picky, I did not see him limit his statement to DV era veterans.
Posts: 31,579
Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:50 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.