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Old 08-15-2012, 09:36 PM   #1
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I would buy that if she didn't write her own stuff. But she does, and earned $35 million last year (tops in the US) on the back of those songs she wrote.
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Your right other than marketing herself writing all of her own songs, songs for others an choreographing all of her shows she has no talent.
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She is talented, she can write her own songs (supposedly).
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She does write her own songs and her own guitar parts and plays guitar. She has talent. I'm not denying that. Too bad she alienates a high percentage of fans in the genre she claims as her own.
All of which she does poorly. Maybe the choreographing and guitar has an argument, but writing and singing is off the table, boys. Have you listened to her songs?

I bet there are 100 people in the state of Kansas that are better singer/songwriter/guitarists in the country genre than she is. And Kansas has shit for musical talent.

She caught a break, marketed herself very well and wipes her ass with more money than I will make this year. But a talented musician she is not.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:43 PM   #2
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All of which she does poorly. Maybe the choreographing and guitar has an argument, but writing and singing is off the table, boys. Have you listened to her songs?

I bet there are 100 people in the state of Kansas that are better singer/songwriter/guitarists in the country genre than she is. And Kansas has shit for musical talent.

She caught a break, marketed herself very well and wipes her ass with more money than I will make this year. But a talented musician she is not.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:48 PM   #3
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Realist dude. Her "music" grates my nerves. Can't ****ing stand it.

Anyway, sorry I missed your call. I'll give you a shout tomorrow.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:52 PM   #4
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Realist dude. Her "music" grates my nerves. Can't ****ing stand it.

Anyway, sorry I missed your call. I'll give you a shout tomorrow.
Just yanking your chain. I agree. Wife loves it. I can't change it.fast enough.
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All of which she does poorly. Maybe the choreographing and guitar has an argument, but writing and singing is off the table, boys. Have you listened to her songs?

I bet there are 100 people in the state of Kansas that are better singer/songwriter/guitarists in the country genre than she is. And Kansas has shit for musical talent.

She caught a break, marketed herself very well and wipes her ass with more money than I will make this year. But a talented musician she is not.
I've listened to her songs, they're typical country songs. Most country artists can't even do that by themselves.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:52 PM   #6
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I've listened to her songs, they're typical country songs. Most country artists can't even do that by themselves.
No. They're pointless runon sentences. Not meaningful music. She's not the only shit ass country musician. I'm not arguing that. But her songs are ass.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:57 PM   #7
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No. They're pointless runon sentences. Not meaningful music. She's not the only shit ass country musician. I'm not arguing that. But her songs are ass.
She didn't start by being the crap she is now. You may not like her early stuff but "Teardrops On My Guitar," "Our Song," "Tim Mcgraw" weren't shit for her being the age she was then. "Back To December" is a pretty well written song in her more recent past.

I'm not defending her... just trying to be fair.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:07 PM   #8
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She didn't start by being the crap she is now. You may not like her early stuff but "Teardrops On My Guitar," "Our Song," "Tim Mcgraw" weren't shit for her being the age she was then. "Back To December" is a pretty well written song in her more recent past.

I'm not defending her... just trying to be fair.
Just because a 16 year old sang it doesn't excuse it for being crap. It is just a lesser degree of crap than some of her other crap. Crap nonetheless.

Look, I don't hate her the human. In my eyes, she is Tebow. Talentless pile of crap that is ****ING EVERYWHERE because the media/society identifies them as some sort of baseless deity. She's probably a nice person. And I appreciate the fact that she is a good role model for young people. Tebow is too.

But from a performance perspective they are both shit.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:14 PM   #9
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Just because a 16 year old sang it doesn't excuse it for being crap. It is just a lesser degree of crap than some of her other crap. Crap nonetheless.

Look, I don't hate her the human. In my eyes, she is Tebow. Talentless pile of crap that is ****ING EVERYWHERE because the media/society identifies them as some sort of baseless deity. She's probably a nice person. And I appreciate the fact that she is a good role model for young people. Tebow is too.

But from a performance perspective they are both shit.
Fair enough. No arguement.

I just hate that her song writting was starting to show some growth with "Back To December" and "Mine" and now she's reverted back to lowest common denominator. I actually think she has more talent than what she's showing.
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Just because a 16 year old sang it doesn't excuse it for being crap. It is just a lesser degree of crap than some of her other crap. Crap nonetheless.

Look, I don't hate her the human. In my eyes, she is Tebow. Talentless pile of crap that is ****ING EVERYWHERE because the media/society identifies them as some sort of baseless deity. She's probably a nice person. And I appreciate the fact that she is a good role model for young people. Tebow is too.

But from a performance perspective they are both shit.
Has anyone mentioned she can't dance her way out of a wet paper bag yet?
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I've listened to her songs, they're typical country songs. Most country artists can't even do that by themselves.
Gonna disagree here. Most country artists can actually be who they are without a million studio tricks. Really. Taylor can't.
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Gonna disagree here. Most country artists can actually be who they are without a million studio tricks. Really. Taylor can't.
Most of them have somebody like FAX write their songs for them, and then tell him they won't record it without stealing a songwriting credit. I don't really care about this one way or the other, but even if every song she writes is a breakup song with high-schoolish lyrics, I'm more impressed by that than I am by a good singer who's singing somebody else's words. If she's still doing that kind of songwriting a few years from now and doesn't grow beyond it, then I'd agree with what you're saying.
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Most of them have somebody like FAX write their songs for them, and then tell him they won't record it without stealing a songwriting credit. I don't really care about this one way or the other, but even if every song she writes is a breakup song with high-schoolish lyrics, I'm more impressed by that than I am by a good singer who's singing somebody else's words. If she's still doing that kind of songwriting a few years from now and doesn't grow beyond it, then I'd agree with what you're saying.
You're absolutely right that many artists have ghost writers but thats true in every genre. Taylor writes her own lyrics... she just still writes like a 16 year old.
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Gonna disagree here. Most country artists can actually be who they are without a million studio tricks. Really. Taylor can't.
She is pretty damn good live.
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