Why Turk McBride Sucks

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-01-2008, 06:02 PM

Other than the fact that we see him prove it on the field.

The McBride pick was a waste of a prime draft spot

The McBride pick cost us a chance at Ryan Kalil

The McBride pick may very well cause us to pass on Sedrick Ellis and take a less effective player like Jake Long because Herm will think that Turk still has potential.

fuck.

Silock · 01-01-2008, 06:11 PM

He's a rookie.

I hate the fact that our society is so ingrained with the instant gratification mindset that we lose patience with absolutely everything.

He might turn out to suck, like you say. Or he might be good. He needs more time.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-01-2008, 06:15 PM

It's not just about McBride, it reflects how our need-based strategy of drafting fucks us continually.

Mr. Laz · 01-01-2008, 06:15 PM

This thread was very misleading

i thought i was actually going to hear a "why" that Turk McBride sucks ..... and here i am with no proof that he even DOES suck.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-01-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Other than the fact that we see him prove it on the field.

The McBride pick was a waste of a prime draft spot

The McBride pick cost us a chance at Ryan Kalil

The McBride pick may very well cause us to pass on Sedrick Ellis and take a less effective player like Jake Long because Herm will think that Turk still has potential.

fuck.

Alright, Genius. Google the 2007 NFL draft. In the majority of mock drafts, Turk was a high second round choice and Tank was a low second round choice.

The Chiefs based their evaluations of Turk & Tank the same as just about anyone else scouting or drafting. Neither can be considered "reaches".

Additionally, please provide an example of a recent second round DT drafted by ANY NFL team that dominated.

el borracho · 01-01-2008, 06:17 PM

Well, I would give Turk (and Tyler) more time to develop but he certainly hasn't done anything that would indicate we are set at the position. If Herm and/ or Carl think we are set at DT then they are even less intelligent than I thought.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-01-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Alright, Genius. Google the 2007 NFL draft. In the majority of mock drafts, Turk was a high second round choice and Tank was a low second round choice.

The Chiefs based their evaluations of Turk & Tank the same as just about anyone else scouting or drafting. Neither can be considered "reaches".

Additionally, please provide an example of a recent second round DT drafted by ANY NFL team that dominated.

Kris Jenkins, Shaun Rogers to name a couple, fucktard.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-01-2008, 06:24 PM

I just see the McBride pick as the worst of the Chiefs. In addition to the aforementioned reasons in the first post, it's also a prime example of Carl drafting a player in order to leverage another, not because he was the BPA.

**morphius** · 01-01-2008, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I just see the McBride pick as the worst of the Chiefs. In addition to the aforementioned reasons in the first post, it's also a prime example of Carl drafting a player in order to leverage another, not because he was the BPA.

I looked at it as a way to dump Eric Hicks...

Chiefmanwillcatch · 01-01-2008, 06:28 PM

Defensive ends need speed and quickness to succeed.

I don't see it.

Tyler showed me some things but we need to see more improvement.

Anyone know of any Dtackles in the draft last season that helped their teams?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-01-2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius

I looked at it as a way to dump Eric Hicks...

If it was the reasoning, I'd like it a lot more, but it seemed like we wasted a 2nd rounder on a guy to be insurance for a four game window of Jared Allen and to show him that we have another warm body to take his place.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-01-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Kris Jenkins, Shaun Rogers to name a couple, fucktard.

Shaun Rogers had ankle surgery after the 2000 season and slipped to the second round of the 2001 draft because most teams felt he would miss his entire rookie season, making it a blown pick. Had he not broken his leg, he most certainly would have been a first round pick.

In 16 games, Kris Jenkins had 34 tackles in his first season. I wouldn't exactly call that dominant.

FAX · 01-01-2008, 06:33 PM

I think about the twin turds the same way I think about Croyle. It's really difficult to know if they're going to pan out or not at this point, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins.

The unfortunate fact is that our coaching staff is a gaggle of knuckleheads trying to organize a goat fuck. All we really know is that it's not suitable for small children, pregnant women, or anybody with a pacemaker or a stent.

As for affecting this year's draft, you may be right. Either way, it's going to be interesting to see what our brain trust does. If the reports are true that we're not planning to be very active in FA, they better draft their asses off.

FAX

Messier · 01-01-2008, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I just see the McBride pick as the worst of the Chiefs. In addition to the aforementioned reasons in the first post, it's also a prime example of Carl drafting a player in order to leverage another, not because he was the BPA.

It was a pick at a need position in the spot where he was projected to go. If he doesn't work out he can join the other 1/3 or so of other picks that don't.

Silock · 01-01-2008, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's not just about McBride, it reflects how our need-based strategy of drafting fucks us continually.

You won't get any disagreement from me there. However, I think this year, we're in a position to just go BAA on all picks.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7989572	I just see the McBride pick as the worst of the Chiefs. In addition to the aforementioned reasons in the first post, it's also a prime example of Carl drafting a player in order to leverage another, not because he was the BPA. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I think about the twin turds the same way I think about Croyle. It's really difficult to know if they're going to pan out or not at this point, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins. The unfortunate fact is that our coaching staff is a gaggle of knuckleheads trying to organize a goat fuck. All we really know is that it's not suitable for small children, pregnant women, or anybody with a pacemaker or a stent. As for affecting this year's draft, you may be right. Either way, it's going to be interesting to see what our brain trust does. If the reports are true that we're not planning to be very active in FA, they better draft their asses off. FAX
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