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Imon Yourside · 11-24-2013, 11:29 AM

The most dissapointing was probably Hellgate London, how could they fail? Well first of all they shouldn't have tried to make it an MMO.

Hammock Parties · 11-24-2013, 11:52 AM

Making MMOs just stretches developers too thin.

There's no room for actual good story content, although I feel like SWTOR came closer than most.

MMO genre sucks. It's only real value to me has been being treated to exploring vast worlds. That was what LOTRO was to me, a giant "ooh look I read about that in the book" sight seeing trip.

**hometeam** · 11-24-2013, 11:53 AM

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Making MMOs just stretches developers too thin.

There's no room for actual good story content, although I feel like SWTOR came closer than most.

MMO genre sucks. It's only real value to me has been being treated to exploring vast worlds. That was what LOTRO was to me, a giant "ooh look I read about that in the book" sight seeing trip.

Guild wars 2 still reigns supreme as the pinnacle of MMO achievement, and even it could be improved on.

Javabean · 11-25-2013, 11:14 AM

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Guild wars 2 still reigns supreme as the pinnacle of MMO achievement, and even it could be improved on.

I enjoyed GW2 -- I remember playing it with you for a little while, even -- but I don't think it reigns supreme at all. It had huge issues with end game content at release, and their updates over the past year have focused on the "living story" changes.

In other words, they released an MMO that failed at the biggest strength of MMOs, and going forward they're focusing on the biggest weakness of MMOs. Sun Tzu would not be impressed.

I'm happy they're trying to blaze a new trail, and I hope some of their innovations are carried over into new MMOs. But the changes I liked the best were the smaller iterations they made on genre, and the two biggest risks they took were failures.

Javabean · 11-25-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Making MMOs just stretches developers too thin.

There's no room for actual good story content, although I feel like SWTOR came closer than most.

MMO genre sucks. It's only real value to me has been being treated to exploring vast worlds. That was what LOTRO was to me, a giant "ooh look I read about that in the book" sight seeing trip.

MMOs are not the best video game medium for telling stories, primarily because one player's story cannot influence or generate truly dynamic world changing events without restricting other players' stories.

But what they do excel at is providing challenging team-oriented PVE scenarios. PVP games can offer more dynamic encounters but are ultimately restricted by the pervasive assumption that both sides must be balanced for a "fair" fight, whereas a PVE game can continually ratchet up the difficulty of an encounter by making the enemy cheat.

Some MMOs choose instead to provide mobs that are just giant bags of hit points, but the MMO developers who design more tactical scenarios provide the most challenging and complex group content gaming can offer.

whoman69 · 11-24-2013, 12:38 PM

MMOs to me are nothing but continual revenue generation. I can see the companies need more stable revenue than the game release and subsequent DLCs can bring. I won't waste my money.

**hometeam** · 11-24-2013, 12:46 PM

kaplin42 · 11-24-2013, 01:40 PM

Pretty much everything Hometeam said. It's just another standard mmo with nothing to really grab you.

I agree that it will be f2p soon, probably within the first year. Sad, so much to work with but so much that is just not interesting. I thought the starting area and story was excruciating and it seemed to have borrowed the story from another mmo.

kaplin42 · 11-24-2013, 03:19 PM

Reading the beta forums, it seems like the general consensus is that this game is a giant pile of pig shit wrapped up in the guise of some peoples most loved game world.

They really screwed the pooch on this one.

Setsuna · 11-24-2013, 04:13 PM

They have almost half a year to keep working on this. Chill out. Also the abilities having really no limit is something you don't see. Wait and see and stop writing off a game that won't be out until women start wearing short shorts again. Lord.

**hometeam** · 11-24-2013, 05:34 PM

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They have almost half a year to keep working on this. Chill out. Also the abilities having really no limit is something you don't see. Wait and see and stop writing off a game that won't be out until women start wearing short shorts again. Lord.

Does not matter what they do. it is completely 100% shit.

Setsuna · 11-24-2013, 06:27 PM

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Does not matter what they do. it is completely 100% shit.

Well you don't have to buy it. Just wait for Warlords of Draenor and you'll be having fun in no time!

**hometeam** · 11-24-2013, 06:36 PM

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Well you don't have to buy it. Just wait for Warlords of Draenor and you'll be having fun in no time!

Dont play WoW. I haveplayed ESO though.

I have also played basically every major MMO.

You sound like your a little bit butthurt. Face it, the game sucks.

Setsuna · 11-24-2013, 06:33 PM

And where are these supposed reviews at? If you don't have links you are talking out your butt.

**hometeam** · 11-24-2013, 06:36 PM

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And where are these supposed reviews at? If you don't have links you are talking out your butt.

The **** you mean. The link is my brain. I have played the game.

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kaplin42 Thats Right, Sniff the Glue!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: tubbytronic superdome Casino cash: $10007177	Pretty much everything Hometeam said. It's just another standard mmo with nothing to really grab you. I agree that it will be f2p soon, probably within the first year. Sad, so much to work with but so much that is just not interesting. I thought the starting area and story was excruciating and it seemed to have borrowed the story from another mmo.
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kaplin42 Thats Right, Sniff the Glue!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: tubbytronic superdome Casino cash: $10007177	Reading the beta forums, it seems like the general consensus is that this game is a giant pile of pig shit wrapped up in the guise of some peoples most loved game world. They really screwed the pooch on this one.
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