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Old 02-23-2013, 09:40 PM   #1
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This draft is these guys chance to show that things will be done differently than in the past.

If we trade for a backup, nothing has changed.

Foles is to Reid/Dorsey as Cassel is to Pioli.
I dont think this is a fair statement to make. For starters Foles has more upside. If they trade for Foles and draft a Qb in the draft its different. If they hit on free agents and draft picks its different too.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:42 PM   #2
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I dont think this is a fair statement to make. For starters Foles has more upside. If they trade for Foles and draft a Qb in the draft its different. If they hit on free agents and draft picks its different too.
Thats the thing, if they trade for Foles, they likely won't draft a Qb in this years draft.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:42 PM   #3
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Thats the thing, if they trade for Foles, they likely won't draft a Qb in this years draft.
And this.
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Rather take a gamble on Foles and draft a Qb mid round. We know what Alex smiths ceiling is...we don't know what Foles' is...
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Rather take a gamble on Foles and draft a Qb mid round. We know what Alex smiths ceiling is...we don't know what Foles' is...
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Smith has stated that he wants to be traded to a team where he can start. He also will cost 8.5 mil, IIRC.
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Thats the thing, if they trade for Foles, they likely won't draft a Qb in this years draft.
We dont know that.

Another thing: Reid always had capable QB's and always had guys who were capable on the bench. That is a huge contrast between Pioli and the new guys. Its important we dont overlook this.
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We dont know that.

Another thing: Reid always had capable QB's and always had guys who were capable on the bench. That is a huge contrast between ***** and the new guys. Its important we dont overlook this.
It just wouldn't make sense, IMO. If Foles only costs a 4th? Maybe then, yeah. But if he costs a 2nd? He's probably the starter for a while.


Who did Reid have behind McNabb? I can't remember.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:55 PM   #9
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We dont know that.

Another thing: Reid always had capable QB's and always had guys who were capable on the bench. That is a huge contrast between ***** and the new guys. Its important we dont overlook this.
Can you really say that?

Somebody posted it the other day.

If you take Donovan McNabb out of the mix, Reid's QB track record is pretty pedestrian.

Yeah, he's good at making mediocre guys look decent.

But outside of McNabb, he really hasn't coached a GREAT QB.
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Can you really say that?

Somebody posted it the other day.

If you take Donovan McNabb out of the mix, Reid's QB track record is pretty pedestrian.

Yeah, he's good at making mediocre guys look decent.

But outside of McNabb, he really hasn't coached a GREAT QB.
Not. this. again.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:07 PM   #11
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Not. this. again.
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Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.

Take Vick out of the equation, and you're looking at a 20-28 record (.416) and a 61:64 TD:INT ratio.
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Can you really say that?

Somebody posted it the other day.

If you take Donovan McNabb out of the mix, Reid's QB track record is pretty pedestrian.

Yeah, he's good at making mediocre guys look decent.

But outside of McNabb, he really hasn't coached a GREAT QB.
His teams always drafted high and therefore wasnt in position to get a pick of quarterback....he was working with guys like Feeley and Kolb because they were the best guys he could get.
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Bray and Manuel are both probably 2 years away from being fully ready, so Smith is gonna start at least those 2 years. (Jones won't ever be NFL ready so he's not worth discussing.)

IF they were to get Smith for a 4th, he would probably be the backup. I don't see that happening though.

I see him coming in here and starting. He'll win just enough for them to keep trotting him out there. 4 years from now, we'll be right back where we are today.
I dont know man both should sit this year but I could see either starting the next year. I think they are ahead of where Kaprrnick was coming out of college.
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I dont know man both should sit this year but I could see either starting the next year. I think they are ahead of where Kaprrnick was coming out of college.
The problem is that this is the Chiefs. We've seen this before.

He comes in here next year and wins 9 games and it won't matter when those guys are ready. They're gonna sit.

I have ZERO faith that anything in KC is EVER going to change until it actually does.
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It just wouldn't make sense, IMO. If Foles only costs a 4th? Maybe then, yeah. But if he costs a 2nd? He's probably the starter for a while.


Who did Reid have behind McNabb? I can't remember.
I dont think theyll trade a high pick for either Foles or Smith.

2006 Garcia revived his career under Reid.

2009 Kolb had a career year.

2010 Vick was a league MVP candidate

Its an important distinction to point out. Reid didn't draft some 6th round guy and get lucky. The guy knows QB's
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