Should Bartee start over Wesley?

RedThat · 08-24-2005, 09:36 AM

Do any of you think this would be the right move?

Too be honest, I watch Wesley play, and I'm quite disappointed. I think he's
the most overhyped, overrated safety to play in Kansas City. Im not impressed with his game at all. He doesnt HIT! Possibly that has to do with part of the reason he plays with no fire. Somebody needs to place fuel and light a flame under this guys a**, if Gun can't do it, he simply needs to be benched.

I just don't like the fact that he doesn't hit. Also, he misses too many tackles, and looks lost at times in coverage.

*We could use a new remedy at FS, perhaps Bartee?

tyton75 · 08-24-2005, 09:40 AM

What a difference a year and a position change can make!!

last year you would have been burned at the stake for offering that... now, you could be onto something..

jspchief · 08-24-2005, 09:41 AM

I don't know if Bartee will be any better, but I'm willing to take a look at someone other than Wesley.

Chiefnj · 08-24-2005, 09:41 AM

Wesley has looked pretty lost at times. It would hurt to start Bartee in game three and see how he does at FS.

RedThat · 08-24-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

What a difference a year and a position change can make!!

last year you would have been burned at the stake for offering that... now, you could be onto something..

I hear ya. Had I said this last year, I can imagine the reactions I would have received from others. I wouldn't be suprised if many asked "What are you smoking?"

*On the other hand, I probably wouldn't have said it anyway

htismaqe · 08-24-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Wesley has looked pretty lost at times. It would hurt to start Bartee in game three and see how he does at FS.

I agree. I'm pretty disappointed in Wesley. And to think, Woods is WORSE and they together made up our starting backfield last year.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 08-24-2005, 09:57 AM

Wesley should fear for not only his job but his spot on the roster imo. He hasn't made a hit since his rookie season... and he actually acted schocked that we signed another saftey in the off season. Nice way to respond to competition.

PRIEST · 08-24-2005, 09:58 AM

With two preseason games left why not, Wesley was grest before he got his coin.

siberian khatru · 08-24-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

What a difference a year and a position change can make!!

last year you would have been burned at the stake for offering that... now, you could be onto something..

I know what you're saying, but many folks here have been saying for some time that Bartee should be switched to safety. They were more than willing to give him a shot there before dumping him. They just didn't want to see him at CB anymore.

I haven't watched him play in the preseason yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's shown himself to be at least a serviceable safety. I had completely given up on him ever being able to contribute at CB.

Now, embracing Parker's "not bad does not equal good" philosophy, serviceable may not be good enough to start, and the fact that serviceable is better than Woods or Wesley shouldn't make us confident that Bartee is really a solution back there.

jcl-kcfan2 · 08-24-2005, 10:19 AM

One thing you gotta remember, Gun drafted Bartee to switch him to corner.
Why, you may ask..
Because Gun thought Bartee had TOO MUCH ATHLETECISM to be just a safety.
Putting him back at his natural position should allow him to fully unleash his god-given athletic potential.
Plus, it's now ok for him to try to read the QB...

Soupnazi · 08-24-2005, 10:21 AM

I'd say put the guy in there that is the fastest. I haven't seen anything that makes me think either one is a better hitter, but Wesley's speed is a major limitation to playing the position.

**Rain Man** · 08-24-2005, 10:22 AM

I'm getting scared about this season. We've got too much craziness going on.

jspchief · 08-24-2005, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcl-kcfan2

One thing you gotta remember, Gun drafted Bartee to switch him to corner.
Why, you may ask..
Because Gun thought Bartee had TOO MUCH ATHLETECISM to be just a safety.
Putting him back at his natural position should allow him to fully unleash his god-given athletic potential.
Plus, it's now ok for him to try to read the QB...

How often do you see phrases like "too much athleticism" and "god-given athletic potential" when talking about William Bartee?

It's almost comical. I remember last year we were clamoring to get Bartee in for McCleon. As usual, Bartee sucked. I'm amazed at how many times us Chiefs fans will allow ourselves to be duped into wanting Bartee on the field.

Chiefnj · 08-24-2005, 10:31 AM

Preseason game 3 starting lineup should be:

Hicks, Dalton, Sims, Allen

Johnson, Mitchell, Bell

Surtain, Sapp

Knight, Bartee

WisChief · 08-24-2005, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcl-kcfan2

One thing you gotta remember, Gun drafted Bartee to switch him to corner.
Why, you may ask..
Because Gun thought Bartee had TOO MUCH ATHLETECISM to be just a safety.
Putting him back at his natural position should allow him to fully unleash his god-given athletic potential.
Plus, it's now ok for him to try to read the QB...

Maybe he is athletic and all of that, but he always looks lost and confused and dare I say, scared of being on the field. I don't know though - what could it hurt to give him a shot these last two games?

08-24-2005, 09:36 AM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Should Bartee start over Wesley? Do any of you think this would be the right move? Too be honest, I watch Wesley play, and I'm quite disappointed. I think he's the most overhyped, overrated safety to play in Kansas City. Im not impressed with his game at all. He doesnt HIT! Possibly that has to do with part of the reason he plays with no fire. Somebody needs to place fuel and light a flame under this guys a*, if Gun can't do it, he simply needs to be benched. I just don't like the fact that he doesn't hit. Also, he misses too many tackles, and looks lost at times in coverage. We could use a new remedy at FS, perhaps Bartee?
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08-24-2005, 09:40 AM	#2
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08-24-2005, 09:41 AM	#3
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I don't know if Bartee will be any better, but I'm willing to take a look at someone other than Wesley. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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08-24-2005, 09:41 AM	#4
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Wesley has looked pretty lost at times. It would hurt to start Bartee in game three and see how he does at FS. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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08-24-2005, 09:57 AM	#7
Dr. Johnny Fever stax of wax Join Date: Feb 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Wesley should fear for not only his job but his spot on the roster imo. He hasn't made a hit since his rookie season... and he actually acted schocked that we signed another saftey in the off season. Nice way to respond to competition. __________________ courtesy of BoneKrusher "Baseball? It's just a game. As simple as a ball and bat, yet as complex as the American spirit it symbolizes. It's a sport, a business and sometimes a religion." Ernie Harwell
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08-24-2005, 09:58 AM	#8
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08-24-2005, 10:19 AM	#10
jcl-kcfan2 Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: League City (Houston), tx Casino cash: $10004900	One thing you gotta remember, Gun drafted Bartee to switch him to corner. Why, you may ask.. Because Gun thought Bartee had TOO MUCH ATHLETECISM to be just a safety. Putting him back at his natural position should allow him to fully unleash his god-given athletic potential. Plus, it's now ok for him to try to read the QB...
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08-24-2005, 10:21 AM	#11
Soupnazi Totally yummy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The kitchen @ River Falls Casino cash: $10006400	I'd say put the guy in there that is the fastest. I haven't seen anything that makes me think either one is a better hitter, but Wesley's speed is a major limitation to playing the position.
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08-24-2005, 10:22 AM	#12
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3278491 VARSITY	I'm getting scared about this season. We've got too much craziness going on. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-24-2005, 10:31 AM	#14
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Preseason game 3 starting lineup should be: Hicks, Dalton, Sims, Allen Johnson, Mitchell, Bell Surtain, Sapp Knight, Bartee __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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