****Official Denver vs Oakland Thread****

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Miller's a gifted pass rusher but come on...that was a complete whiff by the tackle. He didn't even ****ing touch him.

Are you aware that before the snap both guys were motionless? That's typically how they do it in the NFL.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Are you aware that before the snap both guys were motionless? That's typically how they do it in the NFL.

And?

He ducked and ran around the guy. The Raiders tackles SUCK.

I gave Miller his due. But that pic is a bad example.

Stop being a pussy.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And?

He ducked and ran around the guy. The Raiders tackles SUCK.

I gave Miller his due. But that pic is a bad example.

Stop being a pussy.

Hah. I'm being the pussy, but you can't just man up and give Miller credit for owning a Tackle without making a dumbass remark. Sure.

[Hootie]

would Oakland be a Super Bowl contender like Denver with Peyton? No, I don't think so.

Denver has Von Miller. Oakland doesn't.

Is Peyton Manning the MVP of the NFL this year? No question in my mind. Well, unless Adrian Peterson runs for 2000 yards and the Vikings clinch a playoff berth.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

would Oakland be a Super Bowl contender like Denver with Peyton? No, I don't think so.

Denver has Von Miller. Oakland doesn't.

Is Peyton Manning the MVP of the NFL this year? No question in my mind. Well, unless Adrian Peterson runs for 2000 yards and the Vikings clinch a playoff berth.

Miller is successful because Denver almost ALWAYS has the lead.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Dave

Miller is successful because Denver almost ALWAYS has the lead.

That doesn't even begin to explain last year. He's about the best SSLB in the game right now. He's about unstoppable...and we're only scratching the surface on him. He's not even a complete linebacker yet. There is a reason he's the front runner to win DPOY.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

That doesn't even begin to explain last year. He's about the best SSLB in the game right now. He's about unstoppable...and we're only scratching the surface on him. He's not even a complete linebacker yet. There is a reason he's the front runner to win DPOY.

He might not ever be a complete LB. Nor would ever probably NEED to be. The impact he has on the game now is unbelievable.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He might not ever be a complete LB. Nor would ever probably NEED to be. The impact he has on the game now is unbelievable.

He already is a complete LB. Try watching him play.

Lustful cockmonster.

[Hootie]

I'm realistic. I grew up hating Denver and Oakland and really, really respecting Peyton Manning (as evidenced by my years and years of arguing the Brady/Manning debate)...

I hate the fact Denver ****ing stumbled into Peyton Manning when we could have had 5 years of Tebow hilarity but now it disgusts me that I enjoy watching that team play (because of Manning) but now we have to have all of their gay fans come and rub it in our faces.

It doesn't matter who we draft or who we get to coach Peyton is going to win 12 games every year with Denver until he retires...

so that means I probably won't see a Chiefs playoff team until I'm in my early to mid 30's...at the god damn earliest.

[Hootie]

I think Aaron Rodgers is the most talented QB I've ever seen.

I think Tom Brady is the fiercest competitor I've ever seen.

I think Peyton Manning is worth more wins by himself then both, though. Just because of the way he runs that offense and the way he controls the clock so magnificently.

So, again, my QB rankings are:

1a. Peyton Manning
1b. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Eli Manning
4. Drew Brees
5. Andrew Luck
6. RGIII
7. Big Ben

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I think Aaron Rodgers is the most talented QB I've ever seen.

I think Tom Brady is the fiercest competitor I've ever seen.

I think Peyton Manning is worth more wins by himself then both, though. Just because of the way he runs that offense and the way he controls the clock so magnificently.

So, again, my QB rankings are:

1a. Peyton Manning
1b. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Eli Manning
4. Drew Brees
5. Andrew Luck
6. RGIII
7. Big Ben

I was back and forth on Brady-Manning for a long time. Really hard to pick between those two. I give the edge to Manning because the Pats have had better overall teams/coaching than the Colts.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I was back and forth on Brady-Manning for a long time. Really hard to pick between those two. I give the edge to Manning because the Pats have had better overall teams/coaching than the Colts.

Both of them have consistently played in divisions that are not that good.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Both of them have consistently played in divisions that are not that good.

what is that supposed to mean?

I don't get it.

and I think the Pitt/Baltimore division is so overrated it's sickening.

but yes, this year especially...the AFC blows.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Both of them have consistently played in divisions that are not that good.

True, but look at Montana in the old NFC West.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I was back and forth on Brady-Manning for a long time. Really hard to pick between those two. I give the edge to Manning because the Pats have had better overall teams/coaching than the Colts.

It's not even worth a debate to me anymore.

It varied every year.

When Pollard knee crushed Brady and I did my yearly poll, Manning won in a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE landslide (because Cassel won 11 games)

then the next year when Manning was throwing picks like crazy and the neck shit started happening Brady won in a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE landslide.

Then when Manning finally beat Brady and won a Super Bowl Manning won again...then the year Brady went 18-1 he won again...

Just not even worth the debate anymore. I still prefer Manning but it's a 1a and 1b thing for me...both are great, and I'll miss both of them being NFL QB's. I hate when great players retire.