Late night bullshit: I know this means I'm clinically stupid, but I think RG3 busts.

[Direckshun]

Yes, that's right.

And yes, I know this makes me stupid, because everybody and their mother loves RG3 and believes he is a potential All Pro QB.

I'll keep this short and sweet, since I haven't even hit "submit" yet and I can sense the brow-beating I'm going to take.

But some people believe you should trade away our entire draft for RG3. Something no other team in the NFL has ever done for a QB.

I don't think we should. And putting aside all those worries about the draft being a place from which we can build depth, and all the young talent we'd be forfeiting on, etc etc.

For the purposes of this post, I'm just going to focus on RG3. I think the kid could bust.

Several concerns:

* The only player that actually projects to RG3's style of play in the modern NFL is Michael Vick. And Vick's career has been injury-laden and teams have effectively schemed in 2011 to erase him from the equation anyway.

* Griffin has a fantastic arm. But if you watch any games he played over the past couple years, it's not exactly a pro offense he's running, to put it kindly. To put it even harsher, Griffin's extreme, unprecedented athleticism absorbed and confused college defenses so profoundly that he was basically playing catch the past couple of years against broken-down defenses. Anybody watch the bowl game against Washington?

I am a believer that the more NFL throws (i.e. accurate throws into tight windows) a QB has to make in college is a predictor of their NFL success. Griffin was such a unique talent in that wide-open spread Baylor runs that he almost never had to do this.

* His style of play is radical. There's no existing playbook for somebody who plays like he does, with his amazing versatility and electric game-breaking ability. There's no precedent that this kind of quarterbacking reaps Super Bowl success.

* A lot of Griffin's highlight reels come from broken plays, and he is an astonishing player for those kinds of circumstances. His Plan Cs and Ds are fascinating. But I don't have a lot of faith in Griffin's abilities to read blitzes or coverage schemes, because he's never had to. (Granted, this is a complaint for the vast majority of QB prospects, but it's a valid concern if we're giving up an entire draft for the guy.)

* Also, and this might just be my lack of familiarity with who RG3 is as a person: by all accounts, RG3 is a humble, high-character kid. But I don't know if he's intelligent. There are some truly intelligent players in this draft: Luck, Cousins, Weeden, Keenum. But there hasn't been the same flooding of praise about RG3's intelligence as there has been for some of these other QBs.

I accept the punishment I'm about to receive. I know it's coming. I'm and idiot.

But somebody needs to register some dissent against the assinine idea of trading away an entire draft for a player we'd have to radically reconstruct our playbook to accomodate.

[O.city]

I'd like him to use that crazy athleticism to extend plays like Rothlisberger does, keep plays alive to throw it.


It's been said on here before, but even Rodgers tends to take off and run at times. After things break down of course.

With RGIII defenses are gonna have to do him like they do Cam, spy him alot.

[Fritz88]

I think he will be another Vince Young type player.

That is why it enrages me to even think that we would trade up to get him.

No ****ing way.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Fritz88

I think he will be another Vince Young type player.

That is why it enrages me to even think that we would trade up to get him.

No ****ing way.

Vince Young is a headcase who isn't accurate throwing the football.


Way off.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by milkman

RGIII is faster, but people forget just how athletic Steve Young was.

Not exactly the stuff RG3 comparisons are made of.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Fritz88

I think he will be another Vince Young type player.

That is why it enrages me to even think that we would trade up to get him.

No ****ing way.

That's like comparing an apple to an acorn.

[Pablo]

I think he'll be just like (insert black qb from last 20 years).

Waaaaaaaay too risky.

Better stick with Cassel.

[Direckshun]

Let me ask you (whoever "you" happens to be) this:

If RG3 was not the electric scrambler that he is, would you still trade away an entire draft for him?

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Let me ask you (whoever "you" happens to be) this:

If RG3 was not the electric scrambler that he is, would you still trade away an entire draft for him?

Is he an electric scrambler? All I've ever seen him do is throw bullets from the pocket. Are we speaking about the same person?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Let me ask you (whoever "you" happens to be) this:

If RG3 was not the electric scrambler that he is, would you still trade away an entire draft for him?

Maybe not. But I also wouldn't drop $100,000 on a Chevy Volt either. I would for a Ferrari. RGIII is closer to a Ferrari than Chevy Volt.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Let me ask you (whoever "you" happens to be) this:

If RG3 was not the electric scrambler that he is, would you still trade away an entire draft for him?

I like RGIII because he's humble, accurate with a strong arm, but most importantly, because he's as smart as any QB to come out in years.

Yes, I'd give up a lot for him, though the idiots who keep suggesting we're talking about entire drafts for him are just putting words in our mouths, for most.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by milkman

I like RGIII because he's humble, accurate with a strong arm, but most importantly, because he's as smart as any QB to come out in years.

Yes, I'd give up a lot for him, though the idiots who keep suggesting we're talking about entire drafts for him are just putting words in our mouths, for most.

What's your trade offer for the Rams, milkman.

Give me a trade offer that beats out Dan Snyder.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Let me ask you (whoever "you" happens to be) this:

If RG3 was not the electric scrambler that he is, would you still trade away an entire draft for him?

Perhaps. His speed definitely dictates his game, but he's got the arm of any top-flight QB you'd see in a draft.

I said this in another thread:

Outside of Andrew Luck, RGIII has the best arm of any drafted QB since Jay Cutler.

If the spread offense worries you, then were you equally critical of Sam Bradford coming out of college?

If you weren't, then you're a racist.

[Direckshun]

For starters:

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SNR

I said this in another thread:

Outside of Andrew Luck, RGIII has the best arm of any drafted QB since Jay Cutler.

If the spread offense worries you, then were you equally critical of Sam Bradford coming out of college?

If you weren't, then you're a racist.

He has a great arm.



But the best arm since Cutler is Stafford hands down.


Stafford might have the most electric arm in the NFL right now.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by SNR

I said this in another thread:

Outside of Andrew Luck, RGIII has the best arm of any drafted QB since Jay Cutler.

If the spread offense worries you, then were you equally critical of Sam Bradford coming out of college?

If you weren't, then you're a racist.

Uhh...

I'm not sure if you followed Draft Planet in 2010, but yes. I was intensely critical of Bradford because of the same system concerns I have with RG3.

I advocated Clausen that year, not Bradford.