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Old 10-17-2013, 08:38 AM   #1
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In 2011 Flowers signed a 6yr, ~$50 million contract with $22mill guaranteed.
In 2013 he restructured $4million salary into a signing bonus that would be spread out over 4yrs (i.e. helped the team save $3 mill against this yrs cap).

If the chiefs trade Flowers, than the chiefs would still have at least $6 million against the cap (likely all in 2014 because it would accelerate).

So for example, If Flowers is a chief in 2014 he would count $7.25 million against the cap. If the chiefs traded flowers, than he would still count at least $6 million against the cap.

It doesnt seem trading flowers is worth it since the team hasnt consistently shown it can draft well. Team would be trading a sure thing for, at best, a 50/50 prospect.
Are you sure you aren't confusing what would happen if we traded him with what would happen if we cut him from a cap standpoint?
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:43 AM   #2
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Are you sure you aren't confusing what would happen if we traded him with what would happen if we cut him from a cap standpoint?
When a player is cut all the guaranteed money (including signing bonus and salaries) are accelerated.

When a player is traded the original team is on the hook for the signing bonus (since it was paid at the time the contract is signed), but the new team is on the hook for other, not yet paid, guaranteed money (i.e. not paid guaranteed salary, workout bonuses, etc).

Chiefs are still on the hook for signing bonus money regardless.

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A player who leaves via trade, release or retirement before any bonus proration or other guaranteed money have been amortized carries an accelerated cap hit.
usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/09/05/nfl-salary-cap/2769123/
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