Jax Teller and the Mayans are at WAR

[Easy 6]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/17/us/texas-shooting/

9 dead, 18 wounded, 4 bikers killed by police in a shootout... more hardass methheads supposedly headed to Waco as we speak to back up their brothers.

Its time to kill Clay, he's bad for the club.... man.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Is it? I haven't been to the Hot Springs rally. Does it have more of an intimate and "local" feeling or what? I think part of the problem with BBB is the amount of outside vendors they allow to come in. It really does start to feel like a freaking county fair or carnival or something with all the vendor tents and people walking around with fried turkey legs and funnel cakes. In most places, you can't even really see the actual businesses on Dickson due to all the vendor crap set up everywhere. I think that keeps the bikers from even really noticing the local shops and businesses (other than the bars).

Hell, I have friends that own a bar one block off Dickson on Block Street (Maxine's). They basically get no business either because the bikers don't wander off of Dickson and their regular customers don't come down because they don't want to deal with the traffic caused by the festival.

That's another reason, though, I think the 300k number is so ludicrous. If there were actually 300k additional people in town, there would be a lot of spillover into surrounding businesses and such, and the action couldn't all be limited to basically one street.

In Hot Springs, most all of the vendors are either in the convention center or out on the south end of town. Bob Dole doesn't recall any businesses closed that would''t normally be closed on that particular day of the week. The whole thing is strung out so far along the main drag, that it doesn't feel too cramped.

[kcfanXIII]

Anytime I've been to Arkansas for BBB I always spend money at local bars and restaurants. I think the only money I've spent at the vendors was on some leather and patches. Maybe a rally tshirt. I can't believe there isn't a spike in tax revenue that weekend.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

Anytime I've been to Arkansas for BBB I always spend money at local bars and restaurants. I think the only money I've spent at the vendors was on some leather and patches. Maybe a rally tshirt. I can't believe there isn't a spike in tax revenue that weekend.

Well, there are a lot of estimated tax revenues from it based on estimated attendance figures (though the attendance figures are heavily disputed). I agree that it has to have a significant positive impact in tax revenue collection, though. I'll take my wife's business as an example, though. Over the 3 days that she closes during BB&BBQ, she would probably gross 2,500-3000 in sales on a "normal" Farmer's Market weekend. Almost all retail locations in her area close or take a significant hit in sales that weekend, which offsets quite a bit of the positive impact. On top of that, a lot of the money is being spent with out of state vendors. Due to complaints from citizens, they've now started doing a MUCH better job of collecting tax revenues from those vendors, but there are still obviously cash transactions and such which stay off the books and don't get collected.

Anyway, it's a pretty complicated thing that it a huge hot button divisive issue in our city. Like I said, though, for us it's a great weekend to get out to the lake or go camping or just take a break from all the football weekends, which are pretty insane for my wife's store. The lost revenue hurts some, but it's not a huge hit.

Anyway, thanks for coming down and visiting and shopping at the local spots. It's appreciated. I know that our area is a pretty awesome place to ride, so I'm glad that people get to enjoy it!

[kcfanXIII]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Well, there are a lot of estimated tax revenues from it based on estimated attendance figures (though the attendance figures are heavily disputed). I agree that it has to have a significant positive impact in tax revenue collection, though. I'll take my wife's business as an example, though. Over the 3 days that she closes during BB&BBQ, she would probably gross 2,500-3000 in sales on a "normal" Farmer's Market weekend. Almost all retail locations in her area close or take a significant hit in sales that weekend, which offsets quite a bit of the positive impact. On top of that, a lot of the money is being spent with out of state vendors. Due to complaints from citizens, they've now started doing a MUCH better job of collecting tax revenues from those vendors, but there are still obviously cash transactions and such which stay off the books and don't get collected.

Anyway, it's a pretty complicated thing that it a huge hot button divisive issue in our city. Like I said, though, for us it's a great weekend to get out to the lake or go camping or just take a break from all the football weekends, which are pretty insane for my wife's store. The lost revenue hurts some, but it's not a huge hit.

Anyway, thanks for coming down and visiting and shopping at the local spots. It's appreciated. I know that our area is a pretty awesome place to ride, so I'm glad that people get to enjoy it!

Did you think about the return traffic that is generated from the rally? Growing up in Missouri, Arkansas was always a punchline, not somewhere I would want to take a vacation. After my first visit to BBB I now try to get down there multiple times a year on the bike. I know it couldn't be fun living there during the rally, but I think its probably really good for the region.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

Did you think about the return traffic that is generated from the rally? Growing up in Missouri, Arkansas was always a punchline, not somewhere I would want to take a vacation. After my first visit to BBB I now try to get down there multiple times a year on the bike. I know it couldn't be fun living there during the rally, but I think its probably really good for the region.

Yeah. That's a very good point in that it's made Northwest Arkansas a destination for a lot of bikers who come outside the rally as well once they see the potential for rides in the area. And they DO spend money locally because there aren't vendors set up.

We're about to have the same thing start happening with mountain biking. The area is about to freaking explode for it. We now have a trail system connecting Fayetteville to Bella Vista with badass mountain biking anchors (with like downhill banked ramps and jumps and such) at each end, and one in the middle. There are bars and restaurants all the way up and down the trails as well, with like 8 regional microbreweries accessible from the trail.

We also have Tom Walton and his group of friends/investors promoting the crap out of mountain biking and cycling in the region. It's a pretty exciting development.

[srvy]

Mongols will be in Excelsior Springs this weekend at the Elm Hotel and eating at Wabash BBQ. Bwillie here is your chance to call them a fat pussy

http://www.kmbc.com/news/motorcycle-...rings/33112422

[Chief Pote]

Originally Posted by KC native

The story so far is that the Cossacks weren't invited. They had recently began wearing a Texas lower rocker panel so there were increasing tensions between them and the Bandidos (as the Bandidos consider Texas their state). There are rumors that the Cossacks have been cozying up to the Hell's Angels. The Bandidos will not let anyone even consider Hell's Angels affiliation in Texas. They have killed more than one person that they thought were trying to start up Hell's Angels in Texas.

So the Cossacks weren't invited to this meeting. They decided to show up anyways (wearing the disputed Texas rocker). Apparently there was a dispute in the parking lot (over parking or someone's foot being run over). The fight started. Guns came out. Cops start shooting.

Glad I live in a bubble. I don't watch that garbage on TV let alone in real life.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by KC native

The story so far is that the Cossacks weren't invited. They had recently began wearing a Texas lower rocker panel so there were increasing tensions between them and the Bandidos (as the Bandidos consider Texas their state). There are rumors that the Cossacks have been cozying up to the Hell's Angels. The Bandidos will not let anyone even consider Hell's Angels affiliation in Texas. They have killed more than one person that they thought were trying to start up Hell's Angels in Texas.

So the Cossacks weren't invited to this meeting. They decided to show up anyways (wearing the disputed Texas rocker). Apparently there was a dispute in the parking lot (over parking or someone's foot being run over). The fight started. Guns came out. Cops start shooting.

The Banshees are supposedly loosely affiliated with HA. Oddly enough, the Texas chapter here all wear NOLA patches--not TX.

And they act nothing like 1%ers. Hell, they have tossed brothers with meth habits. Generally nice guys, but you don't **** with one or you ****ed with them all. (Bob Dole's band plays a gig at their clubhouse every year.)

[Mr. Laz]

Let them all gather together and Thunderdome it.

2 gangs enter, 1 gang leave


Hopefully not many survive.

then do the same with the Bloods, Crypts and 18th Street Gang.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Let them all gather together and Thunderdome it.

2 gangs enter, 1 gang leave


Hopefully not many survive.

then do the same with the Bloods, Crypts and 18th Street Gang.

We could code name it "Somalia"... Drones with cameras could show the PPV public angles they've never seen but always wanted...

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Zeke

The level of stupid in this thread is awesome.

Tell us all about it.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by Zeke

The level of stupid in this thread is awesome.

I ****ing hate these kinds of posts. Why come in the thread and make a vague, condescending statement like that, and then leave without elaborating?

[RollChiefsRoll]

Nothing says "I'm hard" like getting into a gun fight outside of a Twin Peaks, Panera Bread, Logan's Roadhouse, and Ross Dress for Less.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by TimBone

I ****ing hate these kinds of posts. Why come in the thread and make a vague, condescending statement like that, and then leave without elaborating?

sorry, went to work... and don't really want to get into a debate about someone's lifestyle and the generalization\stereotyping by the trolls on here.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Zeke

sorry, went to work... and don't really want to get into a debate about someone's lifestyle and the generalization\stereotyping by the trolls on here.

Best way I know to not get involved in a thread is to close and dont post in it.