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Old 03-14-2012, 12:44 PM  
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Carr signing with Dallas
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**BREAKING NFL NEWS**Source: As #IBN reported y-day Brandon Carr & Cowboys real close -- Now the deal is #DONE Carr has signed in principle
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:53 PM   #16
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We knew this would happen. Carr wanted the big money. Dallas would pay it. Pioli, to his credit, got Routt.

Bottom line: Small decrease in CB talent and we will get a 3rd or 4th round compensation pick for him in the draft
Since Routt was considered a #1 corner for the Raiders last season, while most viewed Carr as a #2 for the Cheifs, there will be no compensatory pick.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:54 PM   #17
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No reason to let him walk, but in the grand scheme of things I understand why. Just don't like it.
Why? If this is like 7 million a year (like they are speculating), I will go to Pioli's house and kick his dog. Ridiculous.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:54 PM   #18
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We knew this would happen. Carr wanted the big money. Dallas would pay it. Pioli, to his credit, got Routt.

Bottom line: Small decrease in CB talent and we will get a 3rd or 4th round compensation pick for him in the draft
you came over from warpaint to post that?
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:55 PM   #19
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Since Routt was considered a #1 corner for the Raiders last season, while most viewed Carr as a #2 for the Cheifs, there will be no compensatory pick.
I thought comp picks were determined after the season? It wouldn't really make sense for them to be figured out now.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:56 PM   #20
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I thought comp picks were determined after the season? It wouldn't really make sense for them to be figured out now.
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I believe this is correct.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:57 PM   #21
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Why? If this is like 7 million a year (like they are speculating), I will go to Pioli's house and kick his dog. Ridiculous.
I agree partially. The problem with paying Carr is the amount of money that would be tied up between 3 CB's. We have the cap space and most likely still will once FA is over (and that's annoying), but even still it is a little crazy to have that much invested in 3 CB's. I still agree that we should have resigned him instead of paying Routt shit, but it begs the question whether Carr even wanted to be here.
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Why? If this is like 7 million a year (like they are speculating), I will go to Pioli's house and kick his dog. Ridiculous.
He'll get more than that. Carlos Rogers got 7 a year and hes worse than Carr and 5 years older. Finnegan got 10 and hes worse and a year or two older than Carr. Carr will get 10+
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Why? If this is like 7 million a year (like they are speculating), I will go to Pioli's house and kick his dog. Ridiculous.
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Why? If this is like 7 million a year (like they are speculating), I will go to Pioli's house and kick his dog. Ridiculous.
Too late. Pioli summarily executed his dog, Snoop style, for having an accident in the house.
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I thought comp picks were determined after the season? It wouldn't really make sense for them to be figured out now.
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In addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of 32 picks awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as "compensatory picks," are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.

If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as "supplemental compensatory selections").

Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.
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We knew this would happen. Carr wanted the big money. Dallas would pay it. Pioli, to his credit, got Routt.

Bottom line: Small decrease in CB talent and we will get a 3rd or 4th round compensation pick for him in the draft
We won't get much of a compensation pick, if any, if it's really only a small decrease in CB talent.
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That is part of it, yes.

The size of the contract plays a part as well.

At the end of the day, I think it comes out as a wash, because they'll measure Carr's production as a #1 in Dallas against Routt's production as a #2 in KC.
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Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor.
thought so. So since Carr is about to get a much bigger contract than Routt, we should get a good pick unless Routt has a monster year.

All this is assuming we don't sign many other quality players.
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