Chiefs Harrison of NFL.com ranks his top 10 QB's of '15 and Alex.... - Page 2

**Nzoner** · 05-19-2015, 10:26 AM

You can read the full list and see video here

Here's a small excerpt

Competition was fierce at the 10-spot, coming down to Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco and Matthew Stafford. If we were talking overall careers, Manning would be the choice. Flacco presents an interesting argument, because he tends to light it up in nationally televised games. At the same time, there's no question he's been inconsistent since winning Super Bowl XLVII. Stafford's inaccuracy in key spots has driven Lions fans crazy. Newton's calling card has never included on-the-mark throws, but his overall game can be a nightmare for defenses. Ryan, meanwhile, has been the most consistent, and was ultimately the toughest to leave off.

So why Smith?

RunKC · 05-19-2015, 11:36 AM

Alex is a good fit for the WCO.

We need to see some more 10+ passes, but he's been pretty solid in all other areas considering he had a bottom 5 OL and WR core last year.

dls6501 · 05-19-2015, 11:36 AM

I would take the following QBs ranked below Alex over him (in no order):

Eli Manning
Joe Flacco
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Ryan Tannehill
Cam Newton
Colin Kaepernick
Teddy Bridgewater

and possibly
Marcus Mariota
Jameis Winston

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-19-2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

And that's basically how you win with someone like Alex Smith. Does that make him a top 10 QB?

Peyton has made his living off of WR YAC the last 3 seasons.

Mr. Laz · 05-19-2015, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I agree.

The pieces are in place for Alex to have a big year.

If we can get all these Oline pieces to work out.

We are going into training camp with 3 out 5 starting spots along the Oline not being decided yet. Not usually a good sign.

Can it work out? Yes.

You have to think that the odds will be that at least one won't though. Then we will need a backup to step up. What about injury?

Just feels like a train wreck ready to happen. imo.

jd1020 · 05-19-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Peyton has made his living off of WR YAC the last 3 seasons.

If we are comparing the 2 QB's ability to make a living by the distance they throw the ball during a season, then Manning is living in a cardboard box and Smith is living in the White House.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-19-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

If we can get all these Oline pieces to work out.

We are going into training camp with 3 out 5 starting spots along the Oline not being decided yet. Not usually a good sign.

Can it work out? Yes.

You have to think that the odds will be that at least one won't though. Then we will need a backup to step up. What about injury?

Just feels like a train wreck ready to happen. imo.

Jesus, dude. Step back from the ledge.

Injury is a concern with every team.

We were bit by the injury bug the last 2 season. Mostly on D. Last season's D was pretty good despite that.

Just like every other team, You hope your new additions pan out.

mrbiggz · 05-19-2015, 11:57 AM

How can you pick a guy who didn't throw a TD to a wide receiver last season over one that won the SB two seasons ago throwing the ball?

ThaVirus · 05-19-2015, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The comments are hilarious.

Comment sections on NFL's Facebook and NFL.com are always hilarious.

People are ****ing idiots.

ThaVirus · 05-19-2015, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

List completely invalidated when he put Big Ben in the three hole.

Ben had a great year while you can argue that Peyton and Brees had down years.

Plus Ben's got ridiculous weapons. Probably the best offensive supporting cast of any QB in the league outside of Rodgers.

temper11 · 05-19-2015, 12:30 PM

"10 best quarterbacks heading into 2015."

This list is based on the 10 best going forward, not the 10 best to this point. A lot of this has to do with the situation around the QB than it does the QB himself. The situation around Smith HAS certainly improved (1st time being 3rd year in same system, best WR - for his style - that's he's had to throw to in his career, 2nd year for Kelce who won't be splitting snaps with Fasano, 2nd year for DAT who should see an expanded role, healthy Charles, Wilson looks to be a big improvement over Jenkins or Avery, and the line will be at least different than the train wreck it was last year... certainly can't be worse.)

Other than the question mark of the offensive line, this will be the best team situation that Smith has ever been in... by far. Certainly not a guarantee of anything, but certainly reason to be hopeful.

I hope the Chiefs kill it this year.

MIAdragon · 05-19-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Peyton has made his living off of WR YAC the last 3 seasons.

Because you have to respect the deep ball, and he puts the ball in a place where the WR can go unlike smiff.

TEX · 05-19-2015, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dls6501

I would take the following QBs ranked below Alex over him (in no order):

Eli Manning
Joe Flacco
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Ryan Tannehill
Cam Newton
Colin Kaepernick
Teddy Bridgewater

and possibly
Marcus Mariota
Jameis Winston

Eli Manning - NOPE
Joe Flacco - Maybe
Matt Ryan - Yes
Matt Stafford - Yes
Ryan Tannehill - Nope
Cam Newton - Maybe
Colin Kaepernick - Nope
Teddy Bridgewater - Nope

and possibly
Marcus Mariota - Maybe (Not at this point)
Jameis Winston - Nope

jd1020 · 05-19-2015, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11

"10 best quarterbacks heading into 2015."

This list is based on the 10 best going forward, not the 10 best to this point. A lot of this has to do with the situation around the QB than it does the QB himself. The situation around Smith HAS certainly improved (1st time being 3rd year in same system, best WR - for his style - that's he's had to throw to in his career, 2nd year for Kelce who won't be splitting snaps with Fasano, 2nd year for DAT who should see an expanded role, healthy Charles, Wilson looks to be a big improvement over Jenkins or Avery, and the line will be at least different than the train wreck it was last year... certainly can't be worse.)

Other than the question mark of the offensive line, this will be the best team situation that Smith has ever been in... by far. Certainly not a guarantee of anything, but certainly reason to be hopeful.

I hope the Chiefs kill it this year.

Well then, I'll enjoy seeing Alex's name on the stat sheet come somewhere between 1-10 at the end of the season. What's he have to do to accomplish this? Increase his performance from his best year ever by over 20% or so? In the bag.

temper11 · 05-19-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Well then, I'll enjoy seeing Alex's name on the stat sheet come somewhere between 1-10 at the end of the season. What's he have to do to accomplish this? Increase his performance from his best year ever by over 20% or so? In the bag.

Yes... I'll enjoy that too.

Mr. Laz · 05-19-2015, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Well then, I'll enjoy seeing Alex's name on the stat sheet come somewhere between 1-10 at the end of the season. What's he have to do to accomplish this? Increase his performance from his best year ever by over 20% or so? In the bag.

I would hope that every Chiefs' fan would enjoy that.

Sadly, i don't think they all will though.

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Nzoner a haw haw haw Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MIZZOU Casino cash: $26365802	Harrison of NFL.com ranks his top 10 QB's of '15 and Alex.... You can read the full list and see video here Here's a small excerpt Competition was fierce at the 10-spot, coming down to Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco and Matthew Stafford. If we were talking overall careers, Manning would be the choice. Flacco presents an interesting argument, because he tends to light it up in nationally televised games. At the same time, there's no question he's been inconsistent since winning Super Bowl XLVII. Stafford's inaccuracy in key spots has driven Lions fans crazy. Newton's calling card has never included on-the-mark throws, but his overall game can be a nightmare for defenses. Ryan, meanwhile, has been the most consistent, and was ultimately the toughest to leave off. So why Smith?
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2069611	Alex is a good fit for the WCO. We need to see some more 10+ passes, but he's been pretty solid in all other areas considering he had a bottom 5 OL and WR core last year. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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dls6501 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $9960375	I would take the following QBs ranked below Alex over him (in no order): Eli Manning Joe Flacco Matt Ryan Matt Stafford Ryan Tannehill Cam Newton Colin Kaepernick Teddy Bridgewater and possibly Marcus Mariota Jameis Winston
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mrbiggz Starter Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: i travel Casino cash: $3048333	How can you pick a guy who didn't throw a TD to a wide receiver last season over one that won the SB two seasons ago throwing the ball?
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temper11 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013 Casino cash: $10014156	"10 best quarterbacks heading into 2015." This list is based on the 10 best going forward, not the 10 best to this point. A lot of this has to do with the situation around the QB than it does the QB himself. The situation around Smith HAS certainly improved (1st time being 3rd year in same system, best WR - for his style - that's he's had to throw to in his career, 2nd year for Kelce who won't be splitting snaps with Fasano, 2nd year for DAT who should see an expanded role, healthy Charles, Wilson looks to be a big improvement over Jenkins or Avery, and the line will be at least different than the train wreck it was last year... certainly can't be worse.) Other than the question mark of the offensive line, this will be the best team situation that Smith has ever been in... by far. Certainly not a guarantee of anything, but certainly reason to be hopeful. I hope the Chiefs kill it this year. __________________ **disclaimer. Nothing in this post was meant to offend, or in any way slander the good people of Kansas City or the obviously passionate fans of the KC Chiefs.
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