Poop Could California be split up into 6 states?

**The Franchise** · 07-15-2014, 05:25 PM

Billionaire Wants To Break Up California Into 6 States.

http://sourcefed.com/billionaire-wan...into-6-states/

Silicon Valley enthusiast, and venture capitalist Tom Draper is known for backing incredible companies such as Hotmail, Tesla Motors, and Skype. Now he’s backing a new proposal: Breaking up California into 6 separate states.

Draper feels a large state such as California would be better served by smaller governments. Roger Salazar, a spokesmen for the campaign stated:

“It’s important because it will help us create a more responsive, more innovative and more local government, and that ultimately will end up being better for all of Californians. The idea … is to create six states with responsive local governments – states that are more representative and accountable to their constituents.”

The campaign has gathered over 800,000 signatures needed to place the measure onto the November 2016 ballot, but opponents say that it has little chance making it past both the voters and Congress. Steven Maviglio, a Democratic political strategist who has formed the group OneCalifornia with GOP strategist Joe Rodota to fight Draper’s plan stated:

“This is a colossal and divisive waste of time, energy, and money that will hurt the California brand. It has zero chance of passage. But what it does is scare investment away… at a time when the Governor is leading us to an economic comeback.”

Draper’s plan splits the world’s eighth-largest economy along geographic lines creating the states.

Silicon Valley would include the valley along with the San Francisco Bay Area, Jefferson would encompass the northernmost region, North California would encompass the state capital of Sacramento, while South California would be made up of San Diego and the eastern suburbs of Los Angeles. Los Angeles would be part of a state called West California.

Central California would take Fresno, Bakersfield, and Stockton and would also be the largest of the six.

suzzer99 · 07-15-2014, 05:25 PM

Pretty sure the only way this happens is if Texas gets split as well. Central CA would immediately become the consensus shittiest state in the union.

cosmo20002 · 07-15-2014, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Pretty sure the only way this happens is if Texas gets split as well. Central CA would immediately become the consensus shittiest state in the union.

When the Big One hits, that will be prime ocean-front property.

bdj23 · 07-15-2014, 05:29 PM

Is West California going to become a penal colony?

**Donger** · 07-15-2014, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23

Is West California going to become a penal colony?

Snake is ready in the sub as we speak.

**Donger** · 07-15-2014, 05:32 PM

Learn to swim, West California.

rico · 07-15-2014, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Learn to swim, West California.

Tool. Cool.

**Dave Lane** · 07-15-2014, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Learn to swim, West California.

Why?

**Donger** · 07-15-2014, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Why?

It's from a song. It isn't literal.

Prison Bitch · 07-15-2014, 05:38 PM

Interesting to note that San Diego county has the exact same number of registered Republicans as Democrats: 559,000 each.

**Rain Man** · 07-15-2014, 05:41 PM

I love thinking about these things.

One could argue that states should split up once they get to a certain size. They get disproportionately low representation in the Senate, and they get so big that it's difficult to govern efficiently. (And yeah, I'm looking at you, federal government.)

Also, really big states are more likely to have the resources to secede, so in a long-term situation it's best to keep them small if you're looking at the situation from a federal point of view. But if you're a libertarian maybe you want that possibility to be more likely.

As another argument against breaking up, bigger states have more resources to throw at problems and address them. California has been the laboratory for a lot of social experiments over the years, and that's a good thing. But perhaps one could argue that even more social experiments would take place if we had more states. Plus, do we really want a bigger Senate? I'm not sure.

As for me, I like maps, so I vote to break them up. It'll create new maps. We should have a constitutional amendment that once a state hits 30 million people it gets split in two.

**Gadzooks** · 07-15-2014, 05:45 PM

I support this idea whole whole heartedly.

Mennonite · 07-15-2014, 05:48 PM

It would likely give Democrats another 10 seats in the senate, wouldn't it?

**BigRedChief** · 07-15-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite

It would likely give Democrats another 10 seats in the senate, wouldn't it?

This idea will never become a reality. First Calafornia will never vote for it and it has to get past Congress and thats never going to happen.

Just some billionaire's pipe dream.

kcxiv · 07-15-2014, 05:50 PM

i love living in Central Cali. 2 -4 hours away from all the bullshit and noise!

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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3088491 VARSITY	I love thinking about these things. One could argue that states should split up once they get to a certain size. They get disproportionately low representation in the Senate, and they get so big that it's difficult to govern efficiently. (And yeah, I'm looking at you, federal government.) Also, really big states are more likely to have the resources to secede, so in a long-term situation it's best to keep them small if you're looking at the situation from a federal point of view. But if you're a libertarian maybe you want that possibility to be more likely. As another argument against breaking up, bigger states have more resources to throw at problems and address them. California has been the laboratory for a lot of social experiments over the years, and that's a good thing. But perhaps one could argue that even more social experiments would take place if we had more states. Plus, do we really want a bigger Senate? I'm not sure. As for me, I like maps, so I vote to break them up. It'll create new maps. We should have a constitutional amendment that once a state hits 30 million people it gets split in two. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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