Ouch: PFW Evaluates Geno, Barkley

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Dayze

hmmm. didn't know that. Sweet. thanks.

Oops I was wrong it's Thursday.

[Priest31kc]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 7m
Full Gruden Camp TV schedule: http://bit.ly/QBCampTV . Next QB Camp show is WVU's Geno Smith - Thurs 4/4 at 830p et on ESPN2.

[BlackHelicopters]

#masturbate..........again

[Tombstone RJ]

face it, Geno is a second round pick QB at best and the only reason anyone is even considering him in the first round is because this is such a weak draft class. If Geno had come out last year he'd have been drafted in the 4th round.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

face it, Geno is a second round pick QB at best and the only reason anyone is even considering him in the first round is because this is such a weak draft class. If Geno had come out last year he'd have been drafted in the 4th round.

signed,

People who haven't studied him.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

signed,

People who haven't studied him.

Seriously, if Geno was available last year for the draft where do you think he would have been taken? I'm thinking maybe sometime around the 4th round when Kirk Cousins was taken.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Seriously, if Geno was available last year for the draft where do you think he would have been taken? I'm thinking maybe sometime around the 4th round when Kirk Cousins was taken.

I think the Dolphins would've taken him at #8 instead of Tannehill.

[KCrockaholic]

Thought this was funny

It's one thing to not like a prospect. It's another to make things up about their character or work ethic. Looking at you, Nolan Nawrocki.

— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) April 1, 2013

[RealSNR]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/0ap20...ism-Is-it-fair

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by SNR

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/0ap20...ism-Is-it-fair

Casserly basically backed everything Nawrocki wrote, although he couched it in safer terms and did note that at least one issue has improved over time. I'm sure we'll hear about how racist Casserly is now, too.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Casserly basically backed everything Nawrocki wrote, although he couched it in safer terms and did note that at least one issue has improved over time. I'm sure we'll hear about how racist Casserly is now, too.

At what point did Casserly say, "I think Geno Smith is Akili Smith because I'm a ****ing idiot who doesn't back up my worthless opinions?"

Those are only ever the people who got called racists in the Geno Smith thread. Because they ****ing are.

Also, if you're going to put your eggs in the Casserly basket, you're too stupid to be any assistance. Casserly was Pioli before Pioli was Pioli.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by SNR

At what point did Casserly say, "I think Geno Smith is Akili Smith because I'm a ****ing idiot who doesn't back up my worthless opinions?"

Those are only ever the people who got called racists in the Geno Smith thread. Because they ****ing are.

Also, if you're going to put your eggs in the Casserly basket, you're too stupid to be any assistance. Casserly was ***** before ***** was *****.

I was talking about his breakdown of the specific points. And that's not just Casserly. As I pointed out earlier, McShay has also backed up some of the points. There seems to be a pretty close consensus on his on-field stuff and a significant split on his off-field and character stuff. Calling it racism is just stupidity.

As for your comment regarding being called racist: from AlexSmithDynasty, earlier in this thread:

I don't think Geno is a great prospect but this dude's criticism is over the top. How can he say he's not respected by teammates, it just sounds ridiculous. The fact that he gives Barkley so much credit for leadership but none to Smith just makes him sound like a straight up racist.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I was talking about his breakdown of the specific points. And that's not just Casserly. As I pointed out earlier, McShay has also backed up some of the points. There seems to be a pretty close consensus on his on-field stuff and a significant split on his off-field and character stuff. Calling it racism is just stupidity.

As for your comment regarding being called racist: from AlexSmithDynasty, earlier in this thread:

On Sportscenter earlier McShay only knocked Geno for his emotions. Everything else he said wasn't accurate according to 10 scouts he had spoken to. When a guy talks shit on you with 15+ different points and then someone says they only heard one or two of those things were true from a few of their 10 sources, it seems that the original report wants to besmirch Geno Smith. It comes off as a vendetta, when all major news outlets from major ESPN and NFL networks to local sports talk radio use the term scathing, that shows that alot of people don't put alot of truth into the report. Racism? A little bit of a stretch. Coming off as an asshole with an axe to grind? Most definetly.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Casserly basically backed everything Nawrocki wrote, although he couched it in safer terms and did note that at least one issue has improved over time. I'm sure we'll hear about how racist Casserly is now, too.

Not really.

Casserly was more in-depth with his reasoning and formed his opinion in a way of questioning certain aspects of Geno Smith, which I believe is legitimate and perfectly fine (outside of his grades, as we really won't know unless someone decides to steal and post his transcript).

Nawrocki wrote his evaluation to completely belittle and dismiss Geno Smith as a prospect and came across as unprofessional and bigoted.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Not really.

Casserly was more in-depth with his reasoning and formed his opinion in a way of questioning certain aspects of Geno Smith, which I believe is legitimate and perfectly fine (outside of his grades, as we really won't know unless someone decides to steal and post his transcript).

Nawrocki wrote his evaluation to completely belittle and dismiss Geno Smith as a prospect and came across as unprofessional and bigoted.

What are you talking about? It's pretty clear you didn't even read the report.

Has a strong arm and can rifle the ball with good velocity into tight windows. Can throw with accuracy on the move and layer the deep ball. Good overall accuracy, ball placement and touch, especially on the fade route. Throws a very catchable ball — spins it tightly. Good escapability — can sidestep the rush, find an open throwing window and extend plays with his feet when needed. Outstanding straight-line speed — clocked the best 40-yard time (4.56 seconds) and broad jump (10-foot-4) of any quarterback at the Combine. Very durable, experienced, three-year starter — overcame an average offensive line, has never missed any time to injury and will play through pain.

Completely belittling and bigoted!