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People earlier were trying to excuse it like it's no big deal. That might be "kinda" true for some young punk, but a man that is in his 50's (thanks for the correction) should be mature enough to not go there. Unless, he has some racists ways.
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I've known plenty of guys, Black, Mexican and Asian, that have no issue saying "****a" both in friendly and derogatory ways. People age 22-45. Personally, I don't think there's any difference between the two words, yet to some people, there is a difference. Whatever the case, I don't use nor condone using either. Besides the fact that my brain doesn't go there, it's a really slippery slope. |
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I never considered myself racist in any way until I moved to Los Angeles and in my third apartment, I lived next to: You guessed it...Russians.
I lived next to an older Russian couple that drove me batty. My wife (girlfriend at the time) who is Asian, noticed my disdain shortly after she moved in with me. Everything they did made me nuts: Their language, their smell, their food, etc. One night, my wife and I talked it out. Long story short, I grew up during the Cold War and was raised pretty much to hate Russia and everything about them. They were going to nuke us and in 1983, did in a movie set in Lawrence, Kansas. They were Communist and evil and I subconsciously hated them, without knowing it. Fast forward a few months and our head programmer at Uni was Russian. I had to work with him on a huge project and I wasn't happy about it. Come to find out, he and his family escaped Russia in 1980. He lost a daughter to gun fire as they were escaping. His wife and other two children made it but you could see in his eyes that it still hurt badly, 17 years later. At that point, I pretty much learned to let it go. |
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Just arguing about Kramers legacy. I could be wrong but I dont see him getting another shot on a major network. I dont think advertisers will risk a boycott or really low ratings by backing this guy. Those are the cosequences i was referring to. I know its not tolerated on CP either but you can say racist things and the world will never know. But in real life, depending on your industry, there could be repercussions for what you say. |
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10-06-2012, 02:02 AM | #37 |
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That was fun to watch and I didn't even care that much for their sitcom. Loved the music in it too.
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2006 rant or not, the guy wasn't garnering any network attention, anyway and I agree, it definitely sealed his fate. |
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Tons of edgy, racist stuff happens in every comedy club. Those places are cesspools for the raunchy and tasteless. Most of the reason this became a big deal was because it was Kramer. If he'd been small time or if the races were reversed, nobody makes a big deal. That being said, it was racist, he apologized, he seems repentant, the guys career was ruined. I think he has paid the penalty for a few n bombs, and if he wants to entertain people again, which is what he loves doing, good for him. |
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