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Old 05-20-2009, 11:12 AM  
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Vick Released!!

Just saw it on the noon news.
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:32 PM   #31
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Horrible use of prison space, right up there with putting someone in jail for having a joint in their pocket.
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:51 PM   #32
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Horrible use of prison space, right up there with putting someone in jail for having a joint in their pocket.
I guess you're more or less right. I don't think he should ever set foot on an NFL field again, though.
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:57 PM   #33
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fuck Vick.

It's not so much an issue of his "debt" to any one entity, but more an issue of "no one owes him a damn thing, he ruined one of the best opportunities available, in one of the worst ways possible." The fact is, they are role models and extremely public figures, whether they want that or otherwise, and I think it's shameful to entertain his becoming a role model again. You're sending a message that all can be forgotten and redeemed, and that's simply not true. Goodell is a fool to reinstate him to the league.

Nevermind the fact that he's "bankrupt" and yet living in a $750K house while on "house arrest" working a construction gig for $10/hr - which is horsesh*t.

The NFL is trying desperately hard to run itself into the ground. Let's put Vick back out there, increase the schedule to 48 games, make 20 more "protect Brady" rules, and just for kicks....let's send the Super Bowl overseas.

Turds.

Good rant.

But I disagree.

Vick apparently always ran with the wrong crowd and didn't have the brains/guts to turn his back on them when he made it rich. Many people would have struggled with that dilemma. He is guilty of many things, but not as guilty as many who walk free. I am as big a dog lover as anybody, but I think he paid disproportionately dearly for the severity of the crime. He still has his house because he is going to try to prove in court that he can still earn enough to repay his creditors.

Most importantly, he did the time (and I think it was excessive). As far as I am concerned he is as free as anybody to pursue a wholesome life now. That's what the justice system is in place to do. Obviously he'll have strict terms of probation but I wouldn't begrudge him getting back in the league. If you think he didn't get punished enough, blame the justice system, not him.

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Old 05-20-2009, 04:15 PM   #34
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Kordell Stewart with better scrambling and less passing ability.

His 15 minutes of football fame are up. VH1 trashy reality show announcement in 4... 3... 2...
That's wrong, the wildcat obsession pretty much guarantee's someone will sign him just to do that.
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Old 05-20-2009, 04:18 PM   #35
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Old 05-20-2009, 04:37 PM   #36
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I'd say what Vick did was slightly worse than possessing marijuana.
You missed my point. Our prisons are dangerously overcrowded because we incarcerate anyone and everyone who breaks a law even if they are not dangerous to society.

Vick was cruel to animals so sentence the dude to 3 years confined labor at a cattle ranch or dog pound or something that makes him pay his debt by contributing something back to society.

Same as the college kid who gets convicted for marijuana possession. Don't throw him in jail for 3 months like they do here in AZ. Set him to work on a government project or somewhere else where he is contributing instead of taking up prison space that could be used for a rapist or other dangerous person.
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Old 05-20-2009, 04:42 PM   #37
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:46 AM   #38
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You missed my point. Our prisons are dangerously overcrowded because we incarcerate anyone and everyone who breaks a law even if they are not dangerous to society.

Vick was cruel to animals so sentence the dude to 3 years confined labor at a cattle ranch or dog pound or something that makes him pay his debt by contributing something back to society.

Same as the college kid who gets convicted for marijuana possession. Don't throw him in jail for 3 months like they do here in AZ. Set him to work on a government project or somewhere else where he is contributing instead of taking up prison space that could be used for a rapist or other dangerous person.
Fair enough. I'd support something like that, although with respect to marijuana possession, I'd rather just legalize it outright.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:50 AM   #39
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:07 AM   #40
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He's going to Oakland; bet your balls on it. He'll fit perfectly with his smooth, dog-fightin' gangsta-style.
The Oakland north-Cali pussy wannabe' gangsta's will bring their Rott's and Bull's to the tailgate every week, and crank some dumb-assed tune by a local rapper who wrote a song about Vick being "held down by The Man, but now he's rollin' wit Oak-laand; to the 'SHIP"!

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Old 05-21-2009, 01:16 AM   #41
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He's going to Oakland; bet your balls on it. He'll fit perfectly with his smooth, dog-fightin' gangsta-style.
The Oakland north-Cali pussy wannabe' gangsta's will bring their Rott's and Bull's to the tailgate every week, and crank some dumb-assed tune by a local rapper who wrote a song about Vick being "held down by The Man, but now he's rollin' wit Oak-laand; to the 'SHIP"!

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Yup you know crazy AL would love to have Vick there.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:22 AM   #42
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Yup you know crazy AL would love to have Vick there.

Was there EVER a more perfect match of NFL Ass-Hattery? Throw in his pending PETA duties and you've got some nice, west coast PR to assuage the necessary factions, and it's GANGSTA' VICK TIME, BABY!
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:24 AM   #43
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Was there EVER a more perfect match of NFL Ass-Hattery? Throw in his pending PETA duties and you've got some nice, west coast PR to assuage the necessary factions, and it's GANGSTA' VICK TIME, BABY!
Yup,they could Vick up in the wild cat and he can throw passes to Will Franklin
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What do you think is the BIGGER injustice?

2008 Micheal Vick is sentenace to 18 months in Federal Pen for bankrolling a dog fighting enterprise.

In 1998 Leonard Little leaves his 24th birtday party drunk off his ass and has a car accident that kills a woman (Wife and mother) Little received 60 days and 1000 hours of community service..


It seems to me we are being a LOT harsher to someone mistreating animals than we are to someone that takes a HUMAN life while being drunk?

Now Vick being prosucuted at the Federal level didn't help his case what so ever but the outcome still remains the same.
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What do you think is the BIGGER injustice?

2008 Micheal Vick is sentenace to 18 months in Federal Pen for bankrolling a dog fighting enterprise.

In 1998 Leonard Little leaves his 24th birtday party drunk off his ass and has a car accident that kills a woman (Wife and mother) Little received 60 days and 1000 hours of community service..


It seems to me we are being a LOT harsher to someone mistreating animals than we are to someone that takes a HUMAN life while being drunk?

Now Vick being prosucuted at the Federal level didn't help his case what so ever but the outcome still remains the same.
But the poor puppies

Leonard Little still is a POS to the extreme on a higher level than Vick, but it doesn't matter they both are shit
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