Football surgery on RGIII’s knee reveals damage to the ACL - Page 3

Chiefnj2 · 01-09-2013, 01:27 PM

People keep talking about how ineffective he was in the 2nd half, and that really isn't true. The playcalling and Seattle's D dictated the 2nd half. He was often in 3rd and very long situations. There were screens blown up and no rushing yards in the 2nd half. Hankerson dropped a key 3rd down conversion near midfield the drive before (IIRC) RGIII got hurt.

Griffin's problem was that he didn't play smart. The play before the bad snap, he rolled out and had tons of time. There was an open man that he didn't see and instead of throwing the ball away he took an unnecessary sack from Irvin (that I thought bent his knee back a bit).

philfree · 01-09-2013, 01:37 PM

Complete system fail between the HC, doctor and the player.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Complete system fail between the HC, doctor and the player.

Bull$3it.

You play until you can't.

The end...

philfree · 01-09-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Bull$3it.

You play until you can't.

The end...

He wasn't capable of playing the game at a high enough level to win the game because of his injury. He was injured further and they lost the game which makes it a terrible decision all the way around. RGIII is lucky he wasn't injured worse then he was and I find it hard to believe that anyone who was watching that game wasn't thinking the same thing I was. "That guy shouldn't be out there!"

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

He wasn't capable of playing the game at a high enough level to win the game because of his injury.

AT THE END OF THE GAME...

**Dylan** · 01-09-2013, 04:21 PM

According to reports, Shanahan started the 2012 season with his job on the line.

When Griffin injured his knee on Dec 9th, it was reported the recovery could take 4-6 weeks. Griffin was back after missing one week.

**Easy 6** · 01-09-2013, 07:10 PM

This could end up being a blessing in disguise, it might end up forcing him to completely focus on being a pocket passer and stop risking himself like that.

All of that running around needed to come to a stop at some point, why not just get it out of the way now.

You just cant slam your most precious commodity around like a running back.

Chiefshrink · 01-09-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Complete system fail between the HC, doctor and the player.

This !!

And now everyone especially Shanny is doing the CYA thing throwing the Dr. under the bus which is not cool. I don't believe RGIII was being selfish at all as jettio said. If anyone was being selfish it was Shanny who should have stepped in and pulled him not just to have a healthier QB out there to have a better chance to win BUT to protect the franchise. But he couldn't resist and let him stay in thus exposing Shanny's real feelings that in his mind a 65-75% functioning RGIII is better than a 100% Cousins even though Cousins had played well when called upon which makes Shanny look even worse and to be 2nd guessed.

Understand this kid was raised in a military family with much discipline, competitive as hell and knows he is the leader who must lead and those 3 elements automatically kicked in for him. I don't blame him one iota for this. I believe Shanny did recognize that he was injured but winning was all that mattered and rather than step in and pull him to protect not only him but the franchise, Shanny took advantage of the rookie QB's naivete' about playing injured as opposed to playing hurt. He got greedy and hoped RGIII could pull it off like he had done all year. I guarantee you this will be one of those NFL Films documented moments down the road about Shannahan's career and he will end up confessing that he should have pulled him.

milkman · 01-09-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

This !!

And now everyone especially Shanny is doing the CYA thing throwing the Dr. under the bus which is not cool. I don't believe RGIII was being selfish at all as jettio said. If anyone was being selfish it was Shanny who should have stepped in and pulled him not just to have a healthier QB out there to have a better chance to win BUT to protect the franchise. But he couldn't resist and let him stay in thus exposing Shanny's real feelings that in his mind a 65-75% functioning RGIII is better than a 100% Cousins even though Cousins had played well when called upon which makes Shanny look even worse and to be 2nd guessed.

Understand this kid was raised in a military family with much discipline, competitive as hell and knows he is the leader who must lead and those 3 elements automatically kicked in for him. I don't blame him one iota for this. I believe Shanny did recognize that he was injured but winning was all that mattered and rather than step in and pull him to protect not only him but the franchise, Shanny took advantage of the rookie QB's naivete' about playing injured as opposed to playing hurt. He got greedy and hoped RGIII could pull it off like he had done all year. I guarantee you this will be one of those NFL Films documented moments down the road about Shannahan's career and he will end up confessing that he should have pulled him.

Drivel much?

Deberg_1990 · 01-09-2013, 01:58 PM

Don't you know that you are a shooting star...........
And all the world will love you just as long, As long as you are...........

**Rausch** · 01-09-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Don't you know that you are a shooting star...........
And all the world will love you just as long, As long as you are...........

Yeah, his life expectancy is short if he doesn't learn quick how to fall down...

scho63 · 01-09-2013, 02:31 PM

I wouldn't want to be in Shanahan's shoes today.....Dan Snyder is one unhappy and very pissed off owner

Garcia Bronco · 01-09-2013, 02:52 PM

Mike Shanahan has pulled this garbage before with Terrell Davis and Al Wilson. I hope he gets fined by the league.

Sorter · 01-09-2013, 02:54 PM

Did Stevie Johnson sign with the Seahawks for this game?

JD10367 · 01-09-2013, 04:41 PM

Everyone knows running quarterbacks are a disaster waiting to happen. There's a reason that NFL running backs usually have a short career.

As for pulling RG3 from the game, everyone watching that game could tell how ineffective he was, and that not only was he putting his health at risk but the Skins probably had a better chance of winning with the backup at that point.

What's really funny is that when Cutler pulled himself from a game, everyone jumped on the guy and called him a pussy. But this incident makes it clear that, if you can't play, you shouldn't play.

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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7863688	People keep talking about how ineffective he was in the 2nd half, and that really isn't true. The playcalling and Seattle's D dictated the 2nd half. He was often in 3rd and very long situations. There were screens blown up and no rushing yards in the 2nd half. Hankerson dropped a key 3rd down conversion near midfield the drive before (IIRC) RGIII got hurt. Griffin's problem was that he didn't play smart. The play before the bad snap, he rolled out and had tons of time. There was an open man that he didn't see and instead of throwing the ball away he took an unnecessary sack from Irvin (that I thought bent his knee back a bit). __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Everyone knows running quarterbacks are a disaster waiting to happen. There's a reason that NFL running backs usually have a short career. As for pulling RG3 from the game, everyone watching that game could tell how ineffective he was, and that not only was he putting his health at risk but the Skins probably had a better chance of winning with the backup at that point. What's really funny is that when Cutler pulled himself from a game, everyone jumped on the guy and called him a pussy. But this incident makes it clear that, if you can't play, you shouldn't play.
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