IT remake 2017

[Ragged Robin]

I'd give it a 7/10. Above average.. at best. Far too disappointing for me tbh. It was exactly what I expected it would be, which was take everything about the original series and then give it a juvenile "modern" treatment: Pennywise is ultraviolent (and barely even characterized), the bullies are ultraviolent, the kids swear every two seconds, every single scene is a scare back to back to back.

Here are the number of problems I can think of off the top of my head:

• Pennywise is no longer creepy. They tried really, really hard to make him as scary as possible but it's all superficial: CGI-added every single scene he's in, the trashy outfit.. everything creepy and ****ed up about Pennywise was removed. He barely even talks. The actor himself looks too young too. Something about the older-looking Pennywise plays well into the creep factor. Beverly's dad was more scary than Pennywise.
• "Sexy teen" being a plot point. Yes, the series made a point of making Beverly desirable to the other characters, but not to this extent where she's using it to manipulate the pharmacist, be slut-shamed at school, etc. The dad featured a little too much, we already got the point in the very first scene he was in.
• Every scene is a scare.
• The kids weren't this stupid in the series (is that a noise? I better go walk towards it.. and then repeat this fifty times over).
• The relationship between the kids. This may be excused because they had far less time to squeeze this into a 2.25hr movie but still, they might as well have cut out Stan and a few of the other kids like Mike. Stan's pragmatic and logical defiance to the reality of the situation was shown for like two seconds, just like the rest of his character. They similarly had a tough time even justifying why Mike is in the script at all. The relationship between Bill and Ben isn't there.. in fact.. no one even seems to like Ben at all. The series made a point to develop their friendship and trust, not sure why anyone cares about Ben in the movie.
• Richie was too much. Just felt like cheap humor. He was originally goofy and annoying in the series, but here he's just kind of shitty. The Stranger Things kid was chewing the scenery. I understand why this is a fan favorite but it just felt out of place for me.
• Completely eliminated the plot thread of each having a weird quirk which later is shown to have gone away when they're older (which subsequently comes back when IT does)

So all in all, its enjoyable and solid, I guess. But if you were creeped the **** out by the original series and loved it despite it's quirks (that horrible second half), can't help but be disappointed with this one. Not scary or creepy one bit.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

I'd give it a 7/10. Above average.. at best. Far too disappointing for me tbh. It was exactly what I expected it would be, which was take everything about the original series and then give it a juvenile "modern" treatment: Pennywise is ultraviolent (and barely even characterized), the bullies are ultraviolent, the kids swear every two seconds, every single scene is a scare back to back to back.

Here are the number of problems I can think of off the top of my head:

• Pennywise is no longer creepy. They tried really, really hard to make him as scary as possible but it's all superficial: CGI-added every single scene he's in, the trashy outfit.. everything creepy and ****ed up about Pennywise was removed. He barely even talks. The actor himself looks too young too. Something about the older-looking Pennywise plays well into the creep factor. Beverly's dad was more scary than Pennywise.
• "Sexy teen" being a plot point. Yes, the series made a point of making Beverly desirable to the other characters, but not to this extent where she's using it to manipulate the pharmacist, be slut-shamed at school, etc. The dad featured a little too much, we already got the point in the very first scene he was in.
• Every scene is a scare.
• The kids weren't this stupid in the series (is that a noise? I better go walk towards it.. and then repeat this fifty times over).
• The relationship between the kids. This may be excused because they had far less time to squeeze this into a 2.25hr movie but still, they might as well have cut out Stan and a few of the other kids like Mike. Stan's pragmatic and logical defiance to the reality of the situation was shown for like two seconds, just like the rest of his character. They similarly had a tough time even justifying why Mike is in the script at all. The relationship between Bill and Ben isn't there.. in fact.. no one even seems to like Ben at all. The series made a point to develop their friendship and trust, not sure why anyone cares about Ben in the movie.
• Richie was too much. Just felt like cheap humor. He was originally goofy and annoying in the series, but here he's just kind of shitty. The Stranger Things kid was chewing the scenery. I understand why this is a fan favorite but it just felt out of place for me.
• Completely eliminated the plot thread of each having a weird quirk which later is shown to have gone away when they're older (which subsequently comes back when IT does)

So all in all, its enjoyable and solid, I guess. But if you were creeped the **** out by the original series and loved it despite it's quirks (that horrible second half), can't help but be disappointed with this one. Not scary or creepy one bit.

As much as I enjoyed the movie, you made many good points that I actually agree with. After some thinking, I still think the original mini-series was done way better considering the era in which it came out.