Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 580

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-04-2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Davis has been sharp two outings in a row. Let's hope the trend continues

Or, let's hope an actual pitcher takes over his spot instead. That would be cooler.

CaliforniaChief · 08-04-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

I see nothing wrong with that lineup, other than I don't understand why Escobar is hitting before Kottaras. Or Santana.

Agreed. Escobar needs some time off. The lineup looks fine. A little punchless, but with Salvy out and no DH, it's about the best we can do. Maybe I'd start Maxwell in RF, but I get the platoon.

Archie F. Swin · 08-04-2013, 09:16 AM

These interleague games are where I see actual value in Yost. When you think about it, the most important game in baseball is an interleague game.

SPATCH · 08-04-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

I see nothing wrong with that lineup, other than I don't understand why Escobar is hitting before Kottaras. Or Santana.

Yeah I'm fine with the lineup considering no Perez or Butler. I just love seeing the different lineups that Ned dreams up. He seems like he really enjoys ****ing around with the lineup.

DJJasonp · 08-04-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

Or, let's hope an actual pitcher takes over his spot instead. That would be cooler.

Look, we can troll out a 75 year old Jamie Moyer, or a AA kid.....as long as they are giving up 3 runs or less per game, I'll be happy (and we should be winning).

We went so many years with the biggest pile of sh*t pitching staff....I'm just enjoying the fact that we have a legit staff (#1 ERA in AL).....and I dont care who it comes from.

Yes, the future may be bright with Duffy, Zimmer, Ventura........and if those do pan out, the transition from Shields/Santana can be relatively smooth.

WilliamTheIrish · 08-04-2013, 10:12 AM

Can one of you guys .gif up that Maxwell swing from yesterday?

**DaKCMan AP** · 08-04-2013, 12:04 PM

Thank you, Royals, for Wil Myers.

Ceej · 08-04-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Thank you, Royals, for Wil Myers.

Not awesome.

Nightfyre · 08-04-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Thank you, Royals, for Wil Myers.

You can thank Dayton Moore for that.

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-04-2013, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Look, we can troll out a 75 year old Jamie Moyer, or a AA kid.....as long as they are giving up 3 runs or less per game, I'll be happy (and we should be winning).

We went so many years with the biggest pile of sh*t pitching staff....I'm just enjoying the fact that we have a legit staff (#1 ERA in AL).....and I dont care who it comes from.

Yes, the future may be bright with Duffy, Zimmer, Ventura........and if those do pan out, the transition from Shields/Santana can be relatively smooth.

Davis has a 5.42 ERA, dude. He should not be in this rotation.

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-04-2013, 04:26 PM

The more I think about it, the more I want Cleveland to beat Detroit this week. I understand that the Royals have a better shot at the wild card (4.5 GB) than the division (7.5 GB). But we have to keep in mind that all the wild card guarantees is the ridiculously stupid one-game playoff, which ultimately means they could battle for six months, only to see all hopes dashed in one single game.

Let's shoot for the division.

Sure-Oz · 08-04-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

Davis has a 5.42 ERA, dude. He should not be in this rotation.

I think Duffy/Will Smith/Paulino (if healthy) will give the Royals a better shot of winning and Davis probably will be effective out of the pen.

Prison Bitch · 08-04-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Thank you, Royals, for Wil Myers.

Thanks for Shields. We have trouble producing starters. You and Anaheim deserve a big thanks from us.

AussieChiefsFan · 08-04-2013, 05:53 PM

Like us, Cleveland and Detroit are both 9-1 in they're last 10 games. Unlucky for us.

TLO · 08-04-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Like us, Cleveland and Detroit are both 9-1 in they're last 10 games. Unlucky for us.

Very unlucky. I'm ready to see Detroit sweep Cleveland this week. I think wild card #2 is our best bet now.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1750308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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