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Old 10-07-2007, 09:13 PM  
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:40 PM   #5356
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Vince is apparently flipping out over the Kimbo rating on TUF (they beat Raw badly) so who knows what they're going to do. The Undertaker carrying a belt now despite the fact that he can't walk probably isn't a real good sign for Legacy, but maybe Vince will be crazed enough to do something unexpected.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:42 PM   #5357
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Vince is apparently flipping out over the Kimbo rating on TUF (they beat Raw badly) so who knows what they're going to do. The Undertaker carrying a belt now despite the fact that he can't walk probably isn't a real good sign for Legacy, but maybe Vince will be crazed enough to do something unexpected.
Oh now something reeruned will happen, Vince flipping out usually leads to stupid shit not good shit.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:42 PM   #5358
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Vince is apparently flipping out over the Kimbo rating on TUF (they beat Raw badly) so who knows what they're going to do. The Undertaker carrying a belt now despite the fact that he can't walk probably isn't a real good sign for Legacy, but maybe Vince will be crazed enough to do something unexpected.
Since WWE and TNA are really the only games in town these days, Vince has himself to thank for absorbing the competition.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:43 PM   #5359
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Maybe they've designed realistic scale dummies of Rhodes and DiBiase so Hun-Tor can literally rip their heads off and shit down their necks.

I bet one thing: they have an EPIC ring entrance. They have to outdo the whole army dudes and tank thing from a few weeks ago.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:43 PM   #5360
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The WWE is still trying to bullshit saying UFC isn't competition to them...
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:47 PM   #5361
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The WWE is still trying to bullshit saying UFC isn't competition to them...
They really aren't unless they make it a competition. "They" meaning WWE. There isn't as much crossover as you think because WWE is now a childrens product. If they wanted to compete with UFC they'd need to target the 18-45 market, which would mean returning to the Attitude Era.

Plus we're talking about a show that's on Wednesday versus a show on Monday...

What's killing Raw right now is Monday Night Football. The game last week was the highest rated cable show of the year, and tomorrow's game will beat that. Raw may not make a 3 rating.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:48 PM   #5362
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No matter how much they don't want to admit it, the audience that made the WWE boom 10 years ago is watching UFC now.

No matter how badly they want to say they're appealing to kids now their biggest audience is still young males.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:52 PM   #5363
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No matter how much they don't want to admit it, the audience that made the WWE boom 10 years ago is watching UFC now.

No matter how badly they want to say they're appealing to kids now their biggest audience is still young males.
I'm not saying that's not true. I'm saying it was their decision 5 or 6 years ago to target little kids and go away from the boom audience that has cost them ratings.

What UFC has done to get themselves to boom, actually, is basically do everything that WWE did 10 years ago. MMA fans don't want to admit it, or even think about it, but Dana promotes UFC like WWE circa 1999 in a lot of ways.

So they've become WWE while WWE has become barnum and bailey. And WWE doesn't have anybody to blame but themselves.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:53 PM   #5364
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I actually hard this argument and there are plenty of people that actually said "attitude had to end it has run its course people were tired of it"
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:55 PM   #5365
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I think eventually WWE can catch back up to UFC. I think UFC is oversaturating their audience (just like WWE is with a dozen PPVs) and ultimately WWE can control the outcome of their matches when UFC can't, which, although surprises are always good, is a huge advantage as far as promotion goes.

On the flip side, MMA is essentially stealing an entire generation of talent from pro wrestling, which could be a killer long term. Then again, training in MMA doesn't necessarily preclude one from training in pro wrestling down the line.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:56 PM   #5366
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I'm not saying that's not true. I'm saying it was their decision 5 or 6 years ago to target little kids and go away from the boom audience that has cost them ratings.

What UFC has done to get themselves to boom, actually, is basically do everything that WWE did 10 years ago. MMA fans don't want to admit it, or even think about it, but Dana promotes UFC like WWE circa 1999 in a lot of ways.

So they've become WWE while WWE has become barnum and bailey. And WWE doesn't have anybody to blame but themselves.
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I actually hard this argument and there are plenty of people that actually said "attitude had to end it has run its course people were tired of it"
It was more like they ran out of talent like Austin and The Rock to carry the attitude era in both mic ability and physical swagger. The personalities on the show don't lend themselves to an attitude era type product.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:57 PM   #5367
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That's partially because the WWE now realizes with no competition they can push their pet projects. Their promos are all so heavily scripted now no one has a real personality.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:01 PM   #5368
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The WWE is still trying to bullshit saying UFC isn't competition to them...
Of course it's competition to them. The products may not be identical (but close enough, two guys beating the crap out of each other, "fake" or not), but they are both going after money that consumers spend on PPVs. I guarantee quite a few people that tired of the WWE product get their monthly fix of violence with UFC PPVs nowadays, especially with a guy like Brock Lesnar in the UFC.
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DX did go over.

Apparently the PPV was just abysmal.
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