Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 57

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**Nzoner** · 09-15-2013, 08:07 PM

What has it been 2 games in a week or so,the first being the dumb ass pinch hitting move with...someone help me can't even remember the name.

Demonpenz · 09-15-2013, 08:08 PM

Pitched hitting Pena

Chiefspants · 09-15-2013, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

No, he needs to be fired. Today was nothing short of unacceptable.

His contract ends after this season and he still hasn't been extended. Today was inexcusable, but knowing Dayton, he likely still has faith that Ned is "the right man for the job."

I really hope I'm wrong.

**Nzoner** · 09-15-2013, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Pitched hitting Pena

Thanks

Raiderhater · 09-15-2013, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

His contract ends after this season and he still hasn't been extended. Today was inexcusable, but knowing Dayton, he likely still has faith that Ned is "the right man for the job."

I really hope I'm wrong.

I'm sure you're right.

Chiefspants · 09-15-2013, 08:12 PM

A banner would be something that I'm sure would attract the attention of Mr. Moore, however. What were the rates to fly one again?

**lewdog** · 09-15-2013, 08:14 PM

It does seem weird that in the Royals best season in decades, Ned hasn't been extended prior to season's end. It still might happen I guess but just seems odd.

Nightfyre · 09-15-2013, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

A banner would be something that I'm sure would attract the attention of Mr. Moore, however. What were the rates to fly one again?

I don't know, how much is it to fly a plane to arkansas?

siberian khatru · 09-15-2013, 08:16 PM

Rany: #Yosted #Again

Sure-Oz · 09-15-2013, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

His contract ends after this season and he still hasn't been extended. Today was inexcusable, but knowing Dayton, he likely still has faith that Ned is "the right man for the job."

I really hope I'm wrong.

He'll 'step down' and go back to his FO gig, im pretty sure of it.

**Nzoner** · 09-15-2013, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Rany: #Yosted #Again

"So in September, in a pennant race, with ELEVEN relievers on hand, in a tie game, in the 8th inning, with his #4 starter (at best) having thrown 102 pitches, and having allowed 12 hits already, Yost sent him back to the mound. Even though he had only asked his starting pitcher to work that hard twice all season, and one of those two decisions proved disastrous.

Sure-Oz · 09-15-2013, 08:23 PM

Guthrie was very hittable all game...he was fortunate to last 7 ip with 2 runs. momentum was on the royals side just tying.

Use the GD best pen in baseball damnit. HUGE mistake that likely has cost this team a shot at getting that 2nd WC spot

teedubya · 09-15-2013, 08:23 PM

Yost is toast. Ned is Dead to us. FIRE ****ING NED YOST.

ChiefsCountry · 09-15-2013, 08:23 PM

I think they are waiting to see on Yost is:
a)how the season plays out
b)Is Mike Scioscia going to be available.

Sure-Oz · 09-15-2013, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I think they are waiting to see on Yost is:
a)how the season plays out
b)Is Mike Scioscia going to be available.

Most 'pro' guys and Rany says that Scioscia is likely not a fit and is more for a 'veteran' club and only cares about hitting and not plate discipline. I bet he does become available but it sounds like he wouldn't be a good fit here.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1750308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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09-15-2013, 08:12 PM	#846
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lewdog Mod Team Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Valley of the hot as **** Casino cash: $1901900	It does seem weird that in the Royals best season in decades, Ned hasn't been extended prior to season's end. It still might happen I guess but just seems odd.
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09-15-2013, 08:23 PM	#853
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09-15-2013, 08:23 PM	#854
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