Movies and TV The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread - Page 6

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-21-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Was that the bat signal at the end? Does that mean he's still gonna be Batman? Will there be a Batman and Robin movie now?

I think the bat signal at the end can be interpreted one of two ways:

Batman's personal message to Gordon that he's still alive.

A message to criminals> Remember in TDK when gordon was on the roof with the other cop and made a comment about using the signal as a deterrent even if he never sees Batman. Use of the signal as a symbol to criminals to second guess if he's out there.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-21-2012, 10:49 AM

One place I have to nitpick - and I'm surprised that a Nolan film had this big of a continuity issue in it:

The Wall Street scene. Bane asks how long before the transaction goes through and is told either 8-9 minutes. (Don't recall exactly) Bane, his crew, and the hostages come barreling out of the SE on motorbikes while it is still daylight.

Somehow during the chase - in a less than 8 minute span - it's nighttime in Gotham.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-21-2012, 10:54 AM

Was I the only one that thought the movie was going to abruptly end when Alfred looked up at the cafe?

I think a Sopranos-like ending would have been incredible.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-21-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Was I the only one that thought the movie was going to abruptly end when Alfred looked up at the cafe?

I think a Sopranos-like ending would have been incredible.

Or even an Inception type of ending, leaving the top spinning. That would've been cruel.

Red Brooklyn · 07-21-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Was I the only one that thought the movie was going to abruptly end when Alfred looked up at the cafe?

I think a Sopranos-like ending would have been incredible.

No. I was thinking the same thing and I had a grin a mile wide on my face. Then they showed Bruce & Selina and I hate a second of "oh man" but then the theater erupted in cheers and applause. Which was awesome. Great moment.

Hammock Parties · 07-23-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Was I the only one that thought the movie was going to abruptly end when Alfred looked up at the cafe?

I think a Sopranos-like ending would have been incredible.

I actually thought it was gonna end right there, and that was Alfred coming to terms with Bruce's death.

And then OHMIGODBATMANISSTILLALIVESQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-21-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I think the bat signal at the end can be interpreted one of two ways:

Batman's personal message to Gordon that he's still alive.

A message to criminals> Remember in TDK when gordon was on the roof with the other cop and made a comment about using the signal as a deterrent even if he never sees Batman. Use of the signal as a symbol to criminals to second guess if he's out there.

Or that Batman would come if needed (as Blake of course, but Batman none-the-less)

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 07-21-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Was that the bat signal at the end? Does that mean he's still gonna be Batman? Will there be a Batman and Robin movie now?

my take is that JGL's "Robin" will actually e the next Batman. Nolan was notoriously not a fan of Robin. With Wayne sprucing up the bat signal and all the talk about Batman being anonymous it totally points to him intending Batman to live on.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-21-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

my take is that JGL's "Robin" will actually e the next Batman. Nolan was notoriously not a fan of Robin. With Wayne sprucing up the bat signal and all the talk about Batman being anonymous it totally points to him intending Batman to live on.

One thing I will say, at risk of sounding dorky, is that this movie followed the comic book Knightfall, just like Batman Begins followed Batman: Year one and Dark Knight followed Killing Joke. After Knightfall Bruce Wayne retires and Tim Drake (John Blake) takes the guarding of Gotham as Robin on his own. They followed the comics pretty well in this story.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batma...fall#section_2

Jawshco · 07-21-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

One thing I will say, at risk of sounding dorky, is that this movie followed the comic book Knightfall, just like Batman Begins followed Batman: Year one and Dark Knight followed Killing Joke. After Knightfall Bruce Wayne retires and Tim Drake (John Blake) takes the guarding of Gotham as Robin on his own. They followed the comics pretty well in this story.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batma...fall#section_2

Well... Tim Drake wasn't alone. Jean Paul Valley (Aka Azrael) becomes a twisted Batman who abandons Robin. Then Dick Grayson comes in at the end to help fight against the new Batman with Robin and the healed Bruce doesn't retire. He still tries to be heroic even in a wheelchair. When he fails to save Tim's parents he begins training with Shiva (which is my favorite part of Knightfall).

I actually think TDKR also takes inspiration from the No Man's Land series.

scorpio · 07-21-2012, 10:08 PM

I like that Nolan draws from a lot of the best mythos of the comics but ultimately creates his own continuity. TDKR has a lot from Knightfall and The Dark Knight Returns, but isn't loyal to either. And it works.

I do wish they could have put more of Knightfall in there, like having to re-undergo the ninja training and take back the mantle, but it was already a pretty long movie. A nod to Azrael would have been cool.

Silock · 07-20-2012, 11:56 PM

I didn't see it so much as preparing the way for a new movie, but the idea that "Batman" will live on. One of the themes of these movies was Batman giving the city hope so that someone else would step up. I think he hoped it would be the police or Harvey Dent or ordinary citizens, but at least SOMEONE else was going to come to the aid of the city when it needed it in the future.

Sannyasi · 07-21-2012, 12:01 AM

Didn't like this movie at all. Didn't care about Catwoman, didn't care about Robin. Bane was boring, the romance was uninteresting. Every bit of the first half of the movie was written to service a plot that wasn't that good to begin with. Batman spends so much of the movie down a hole that I really need to come to care about these other characters, and to learn about who these people are. But there were so few character moments in the film, instead it was all this neat and tidy, "Now let's show the bat tanks, that's going to be important" bullshit.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-21-2012, 12:21 AM

I haven't seen it since it first came out, but I don't recall the actress that plays Talia Al Ghul having that rack in Inception.

Chiefs Pantalones · 07-21-2012, 01:02 AM

FYI Bale did change his tune mentioning last month that he'd be open to doing another Batman movie with Nolan if he wanted to. After this one it'd be a shame not to do a Batman and Robin film. The fans will be salivating for it. The chemistry between Bale and JGL is too good to pass up.

07-21-2012, 10:49 AM	#2
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4811115	One place I have to nitpick - and I'm surprised that a Nolan film had this big of a continuity issue in it: The Wall Street scene. Bane asks how long before the transaction goes through and is told either 8-9 minutes. (Don't recall exactly) Bane, his crew, and the hostages come barreling out of the SE on motorbikes while it is still daylight. Somehow during the chase - in a less than 8 minute span - it's nighttime in Gotham.
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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4811115	Was I the only one that thought the movie was going to abruptly end when Alfred looked up at the cafe? I think a Sopranos-like ending would have been incredible.
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scorpio Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $9498509	I like that Nolan draws from a lot of the best mythos of the comics but ultimately creates his own continuity. TDKR has a lot from Knightfall and The Dark Knight Returns, but isn't loyal to either. And it works. I do wish they could have put more of Knightfall in there, like having to re-undergo the ninja training and take back the mantle, but it was already a pretty long movie. A nod to Azrael would have been cool.
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07-20-2012, 11:56 PM	#12
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	I didn't see it so much as preparing the way for a new movie, but the idea that "Batman" will live on. One of the themes of these movies was Batman giving the city hope so that someone else would step up. I think he hoped it would be the police or Harvey Dent or ordinary citizens, but at least SOMEONE else was going to come to the aid of the city when it needed it in the future.
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07-21-2012, 12:01 AM	#13
Sannyasi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $9963714	Didn't like this movie at all. Didn't care about Catwoman, didn't care about Robin. Bane was boring, the romance was uninteresting. Every bit of the first half of the movie was written to service a plot that wasn't that good to begin with. Batman spends so much of the movie down a hole that I really need to come to care about these other characters, and to learn about who these people are. But there were so few character moments in the film, instead it was all this neat and tidy, "Now let's show the bat tanks, that's going to be important" bullshit.
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07-21-2012, 12:21 AM	#14
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