Chiefs Chiefs Off-season Rumors, Cut Maclin? - Page 2

RunKC · 02-22-2017, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Damn; didn't realize that about Sorenson. It would make sense for some team to steal him away as pretty much every team in the NFL can give him a year 1 salary that we can't touch and the Chiefs would be fools to allocate a significant signing bonus to him.

I'm okay with losing him. He was the worst S in run defense last year and Eric Murray looks like a nice box safety.

kcchiefsus · 02-22-2017, 11:08 AM

Maclin was playing like shit even before the injury. He's nothing special.

Halfcan · 02-22-2017, 11:10 AM

Chiefs Rumor: Poe and Berry contracts.

http://kckingdom.com/2017/02/22/kans...cts-work-2017/

General Manager John Dorsey has made it clear that the Kansas City Chiefs believe they can re-sign both Eric Berry and Dontari Poe. We crunched some numbers to see just how that would work out.

One of the biggest issues facing the Kansas City Chiefs in the 2017 offseason is how the team will re-sign key free agents. Specifically, how will the Chiefs get both safety Eric Berry and defensive tackle Dontari Poe back. The issue facing the KC front office is that the team is currently tight against the salary cap. However, after some number crunching, I don’t think that’s a problem.

This is a subject that GM John Dorsey has spoken about recently. In his “end of the season press conference”, Dorsey expressed optimism in working with both Eric Berry and Dontari Poe. He specifically referred to Berry, telling reporters: “We’ve had very positive conversations with his representatives. … Hopefully two sides can come together and mesh this thing out.”

However, optimism aside, there will still be plenty of work to be done. Over The Cap currently puts the Chiefs available salary cap for 2017 at approximately $4.7 million. There is no amount of financial wizardry that will make that amount of money work for both Eric Berry and Dontari Poe. On top of that, you also have to factor in the incoming draft class and other pending free agents who need to be re-signed.

Options Are Available

Fortunately, the Kansas City Chiefs have some options for freeing up more cap space. Specifically, there is the contract of backup quarterback Nick Foles. Rumors have come out that the Chiefs do not intend to pick up the team option on Foles for the 2017 season. That will open up a projected $6.75 million in cap space. If that is true, the Chiefs are suddenly in business.

Another option for the Chiefs is to address the contract of running back Jamaal Charles. Charles is currently slated to make $6.1 million in 2017, which is a number KC can’t afford to pay him. I’ve talked about this situation before, and came up with a solution that would lower his cap hit to $2.8 million in 2017. That opens an additional $3.3 million in cap space to work with.

If the Kansas City Chiefs are able to work both the Nick Foles and Jamaal Charles situations as I have laid out, that would give the team $14.75 million in salary cap room to work with. Now we can get down to business.

**notorious** · 02-22-2017, 11:14 AM

A 3rd and a 6th pick for 1 1/2 years of production......

No way they cut him.

In58men · 02-22-2017, 11:15 AM

Overpaid injury prone piece of shit. Kick rocks.

Hammock Parties · 02-22-2017, 11:16 AM

No way. Dorsey and Reid will go all in this offseason to win the SB.

There will be absolutely zero eyes towards the future.

Halfcan · 02-22-2017, 11:17 AM

Chiefs Rumor: Chiefs to cut Foles?

This has been talked about a lot on here, but this story has a little different spin to it.

http://kckingdom.com/2017/02/16/kans...or-draft-pick/

The Kansas City Chiefs are expected to decline the option of retaining quarterback Nick Foles. That opens the door for the team to draft a quarterback early.

It has been expected for a while now that the Kansas City Chiefs would decline the contract option on backup quarterback Nick Foles. The journeyman backup was simply an expense the team could not afford given other pending contracts. However, the release of Foles brings an added benefit as there will now be a clear opening for a quarterback to be added in the upcoming draft.

The quarterback position as a whole has been a huge topic of discussion all offseason. Many fans are clamoring for a change at the position. Of course, when presented with the alternative options, it quickly becomes clear that Alex Smith isn’t going anywhere. That’s why this decision to move on from Foles is so important.

Chiefs fans should expect the team to make an early effort in the draft to grab a quarterback. It should also be assumed that the team has someone in mind. Though the cap relief in releasing Foles is important, KC did have other options. That means they have made at least some kind of decision regarding the future at quarterback.

There are no shortage of possible options. Already there have been many articles posted that tie various college quarterbacks to Kansas City. Of course, realistically, we are no closer to knowing who that player might be.

I have been of the opinion for a while now that the Kansas City Chiefs would stick with Alex Smith until a quality future option presented itself. The Chiefs were rumored to have been interested in Paxton Lynch last year. Of course, the Broncos ruined that, and may actually be paying for it. However, that rumor, along with the recent report on Foles, lends some credibility to the idea that the team is looking for their quarterback of the future.

NEXT: Chiefs Quarterback Dilemma: Alex Smith Vs Kirk Cousins
I won’t venture a guess on who it is that the Kansas City Chiefs like right now. More than likely, they have a few names circled. It will be interesting to see what John Dorsey is willing to do to get that quarterback. If it is one of the top names in the draft, they will likely have to trade up. It could also be that the Chiefs like a quarterback that nobody is even considering yet.

**Rausch** · 02-22-2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

There will be absolutely zero eyes towards the future.

I'm sure of that...

Halfcan · 02-22-2017, 11:28 AM

Chiefs Rumor: Cut Alex..Sign Cousins?

http://kckingdom.com/2017/02/15/kans...-kirk-cousins/

Another season, another time to speculate as to what the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback situation will be in 2017. How does Alex Smith look against some of the available free agents? Here’s a breakdown of Smith and Kirk Cousins.

Looking at the Chiefs’ early exit from the playoffs, it wouldn’t be too crazy of a theory to say that the Kansas City Chiefs would have advanced further in the playoffs with a better quarterback.

That doesn’t mean the loss was all Alex Smith‘s fault though. Smith really didn’t play terribly at all, but he also didn’t play terrific football either.

The fallout from this last postseason is very real and everyone is now debating about who the next quarterback will be for the KC Chiefs.

Alex Smith is a topic of conversation in Kansas City and has been since arriving to town in 2013. There is no doubt that the Chiefs could do much worse at quarterback, even if some fans don’t want to admit it.

There’s also the side of that fans know the team could do much better at the most important position in the sport. That’s the whole crux of this. Alex Smith is about as middle of the road as it gets at quarterback.

This offseason presents a lot of free agent quarterbacks that the Chiefs could take a gamble on. I’m going to go through this one option at a time and we’ll see if we can find that better option. Today we’re going to put Smith up against Kirk Cousins of the Washington Redskins. So let’s see how they compare…

Kansas City Chiefs Quarterback Options

Alex Smith – Kansas City Chiefs

As the reigning starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs, it’s only right that we give Alex Smith the first look. Smith has been with the Chiefs since 2013 when Andy Reid and John Dorsey traded a pair of second round picks to the 49ers for him.

Alex Smith’s career with the Chiefs has led the team to nothing but winning seasons. KC has been no worse than 9-7 with Smith as the quarterback, and only went that low once. The team has made the postseason in three of the four years, and Smith has also earned a pair of Pro Bowl appearances. As a passer he makes very few mistakes and doesn’t turn the ball over, which helps KC win the field position battle consistently.

“WE ALL FELT LIKE WE HAD AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY AND WE DIDN’T GET IT DONE. SO EVEN MORE SO, LET’S PRESS ON THE GAS AND LET’S GO.” ~ ALEX SMITH ON FRUSTRATING 2016 AND MOVING FORWARD.
From the negatives persepctive, Alex Smith doesn’t take a lot of chances. In essence, what makes him a good quarterback is also what prevents him from being a great one. Smith rarely takes shots down the field, though this past season did show an added effort there. That’s a tough pill for Chiefs fans to swallow when we come up short. It’s easy to want to see more of a gunslinger mentality from Smith, but we don’t know how that would effect his ability to protect the ball.

For his own part, Alex Smith understands the frustration. He’s talked about it before, and most recently alluded to it in an interview with the Kansas City Star. Smith told Terez Paylor: “We all felt like we had an awesome opportunity and we didn’t get it done. So even more so, let’s press on the gas and let’s go.”

The Numbers

2013: 308/508 (60.6%) 3,313 yds; 23 TDs; 7 INTs; 76 carries 431 yds; 1 TD

2014: 303/464 (65.3%) 3,265 yds; 18 TDs; 6 INTs; 49 carries 259 yds; 1 TD

2015: 307/470 (65.3%) 3,486 yds; 20 TDs; 7 INTs; 84 carries 498 yds; 2 TD

2016: 328/429 (67.1%) 3,502 yds; 15 TDs; 8 INTs; 48 carries 134 yds; 5 TD

Things could certainly be worse for the Kansas City Chiefs. Smith doesn’t put up huge numbers, but he doesn’t give the ball to the defense. There’s a lot to be said about that. From a financial point of view, his price tag isn’t outrageous for a quarterback. It will be tough for someone else to come in and be a clear improvement on Smith for the Chiefs.

Kirk Cousins – Washington Redskins

If the Kansas City Chiefs are truly intent on upgrading at quarterback, it’s hard to argue there is a better option than Kirk Cousins. The Redskins drafted Cousins to be the backup to Robert Griffin III, but things worked out much differently. Cousins has started the past two seasons and it primed for a big time contract either from Washington or on the free agent market.

Since getting the chance to start, Kirk Cousins has had some up and down moments, but looks the part of a franchise quarterback. He’s got a solid arm and reads the field well. Cousins moves well in the pocket and can pick up yards with his legs in a pinch. He seems to have all the tools to succeed in the NFL.

However, there are moments when you wonder exactly what it is you are watching with Kirk Cousins on the field. There are some head scratching performances that give you a moment’s pause. Cousins can also tend to disappear a bit in big time games. All of these things are what keeps people from declaring him a top option at quarterback.

Kirk Cousins is saying all the right things about staying in Washington. However, the Redskins have painted themselves into a corner on this and it’s hard to know how it will turn out. Washington should give Cousins a new contract, but it’s fully possible they won’t. With the team already using the Franchise tag on him in 2016, it seems like an unlikely scenario to do it again.

The Numbers

2013: 81/155 (52.3%) 155 yds; 4 TDs; 7 INTs; 4 carries 14 yds; 0 TD

2014: 126/204 (61.8%) 1,710 yds; 10 TDs; 9 INTs; 7 carries 20 yds; 0 TD

2015: 379/543 (69.8%) 4,166 yds; 29 TDs; 11 INTs; 26 carries 48 yds; 5 TD

2016: 406/606 (67%) 4,917 yds; 25 TDs; 12 INTs; 34 carries 96 yds; 4 TD

The Contract
2012
$390,000
$118,172 $0 $0 $0 $508,172
2013
$480,000
$118,172 $0 $0 $0 $598,172
2014
$570,000
$118,172 $0 $0 $0 $688,172
2015
$660,000
$118,172 $0 $0 $0 $778,172
2016
$19,953,000
$19,953,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $19,953,000

If you’re buying the services of Kirk Cousins, you had better believe in his ability to lead the team. There is no doubt that Cousins will get a big quarterback contract from whomever he plays for in 2016. So if the Kansas City Chiefs are going to invest that kind of money, they had better be sure.

The Winner – Kirk Cousins

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Yes, it would cost the Kansas City Chiefs quit a bit to sign Kirk Cousins. Yes, it is unclear just how good he really is. However, I have liked what I’ve seen from the former 4th-round pick, and I’m buying into him as an NFL franchise quarterback. So if the Chiefs are serious about upgrading the quarterback position, I am on board with Cousins being that option.

Kirk Cousins has shown a lot in his young NFL career. Pairing him up with a coach with Andy Reid’s reputation for developing quarterbacks, and this could be a very dangerous offense. The only real trick here is the financials of the deal. If you’re bringing in Cousins, then both Alex Smith and Nick Foles have got to go. Even then, it would be tough for the Chiefs to work with some other key free agents.

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Unfortunately, Kirk Cousins is probably the least readily available option for the Chiefs this offseason. While the two sides don’t seem to be making any headway, I really do not see a scenario where the Redskins let Cousins walk. It just wouldn’t make any sense. Especially with what is viewed by most to be a weak quarterback class.

**notorious** · 02-22-2017, 11:34 AM

I was hoping for Cousins, but there is no way the Foreskins are stupid enough to let him go.

Halfcan · 02-22-2017, 11:34 AM

Chiefs Rumor: Garoppola to the Chiefs?

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/02/2...ts-alex-smith/

The Kansas City Chiefs might be in the market for a new starting quarterback at some point in the very near future, but Jimmy Garoppolo makes absolutely no sense for KC.

It’s the NFL offseason, so rumors are supposed to be flying this time of year. The Kansas City Chiefs are rumored to be considering changes at the starting quarterback position, which makes them ripe to be connected with anyone and everyone. However, one idea floating about the possibility of trading for Jimmy Garoppolo is among the ones that make the least amount of sense.

Garoppolo has certainly looked the part as a potential starting quarterback in limited duty filling in for Tom Brady the last few seasons. Since Bill Belichick made Garoppolo a second round pick in 2014, Garoppolo has thrown only 94 total passes (that’s two weeks work for Drew Brees, by comparison), but Garoppolo went 2-0 when starting while Brady was suspended in 2016, completing 68% of his passes and throwing 4 touchdowns and avoiding any interceptions. It was good for a 113.3 passer rating and plenty of buzz about his starting potential.

Garoppolo basically has it all going for him at this point. Let’s consider the following:

1. One third of NFL franchises seem to be desperate for a long-term answer at quarterback, the game’s most important position.
2. Teams are paying through the nose to find those answers (a la Brock Osweiler’s mega-contract from the Houston Texans).
3. There’s an ongoing mystique around Bill Belichick’s players and staff that make them seem better than they are (a la every former Pats player and coach who leaves).
4. The limited sample size looks great
5. He’s studied under both the best quarterback and coach in NFL history.
6. He’s ready to start from Week 1 versus a rookie who might need time.

In short, there’s a lot to like about Garoppolo for any team in need of a starter. And that’s where this all begins to fall apart when viewed from the Chiefs perspective. The cost is going to be far too considerable both in trade value and in contract terms for the Chiefs to take the bait.

In58men · 02-22-2017, 11:36 AM

If Grapopoloppo was the real deal, they would keep him right where he's at. I ****ing hate trading for QBs that rarely did anything. Everybody should have learned from Houstons mistake.

Hammock Parties · 02-22-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Chiefs Rumor: Garoppola to the Chiefs?

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/02/2...ts-alex-smith/

The Kansas City Chiefs might be in the market for a new starting quarterback at some point in the very near future, but Jimmy Garoppolo makes absolutely no sense for KC.

It’s the NFL offseason, so rumors are supposed to be flying this time of year. The Kansas City Chiefs are rumored to be considering changes at the starting quarterback position, which makes them ripe to be connected with anyone and everyone. However, one idea floating about the possibility of trading for Jimmy Garoppolo is among the ones that make the least amount of sense.

Garoppolo has certainly looked the part as a potential starting quarterback in limited duty filling in for Tom Brady the last few seasons. Since Bill Belichick made Garoppolo a second round pick in 2014, Garoppolo has thrown only 94 total passes (that’s two weeks work for Drew Brees, by comparison), but Garoppolo went 2-0 when starting while Brady was suspended in 2016, completing 68% of his passes and throwing 4 touchdowns and avoiding any interceptions. It was good for a 113.3 passer rating and plenty of buzz about his starting potential.

Garoppolo basically has it all going for him at this point. Let’s consider the following:

1. One third of NFL franchises seem to be desperate for a long-term answer at quarterback, the game’s most important position.
2. Teams are paying through the nose to find those answers (a la Brock Osweiler’s mega-contract from the Houston Texans).
3. There’s an ongoing mystique around Bill Belichick’s players and staff that make them seem better than they are (a la every former Pats player and coach who leaves).
4. The limited sample size looks great
5. He’s studied under both the best quarterback and coach in NFL history.
6. He’s ready to start from Week 1 versus a rookie who might need time.

In short, there’s a lot to like about Garoppolo for any team in need of a starter. And that’s where this all begins to fall apart when viewed from the Chiefs perspective. The cost is going to be far too considerable both in trade value and in contract terms for the Chiefs to take the bait.

Halfcan · 02-22-2017, 11:39 AM

Chiefs Rumor: Cut or Restructure Jamaal Charles?

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/02/2...amaal-charles/

The Jamaal Charles situation with the Kansas City Chiefs illustrates difficult a lasting relationship between player and franchise can be in the modern NFL.

The contract Charles is currently under presents problem for John Dorsey and the Chiefs’ leadership. He signed that contract in 2014. It was a deal made by a player showing loyalty to the franchise and a franchise rewarding the player for excellent performance. Three seasons later in which the bulk of two seasons we lost to injury, the contract sits at an untenable position. In 2017, Charles is due to make significant a salary of $3.75 million as well as roster bonuses of $3 million and a workout bonus of $250k. Charles carries a cap number of $6.19 million dollars into the 2017 league year.

The bigger worry is Charles’ physical condition. Very little has been reported on his progress in recovery from the meniscus repairs he had following his short-lived return from an ACL repair. In light of these injuries, the contract may be a moot point if Charles is not able to return to the field. If he’s unable to participate in offseason activities, the decision may make itself.

Halfcan · 02-22-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

I don't think the Garoppola rumor is getting much traction at all.

It is strange that Andy comes out and says "Alex is our Guy for 2017." Yet all these QB rumors are swirling around the Chiefs?

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02-22-2017, 11:10 AM	#18
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Chiefs Rumor: Poe and Berry contracts. http://kckingdom.com/2017/02/22/kans...cts-work-2017/ General Manager John Dorsey has made it clear that the Kansas City Chiefs believe they can re-sign both Eric Berry and Dontari Poe. We crunched some numbers to see just how that would work out. One of the biggest issues facing the Kansas City Chiefs in the 2017 offseason is how the team will re-sign key free agents. Specifically, how will the Chiefs get both safety Eric Berry and defensive tackle Dontari Poe back. The issue facing the KC front office is that the team is currently tight against the salary cap. However, after some number crunching, I don’t think that’s a problem. This is a subject that GM John Dorsey has spoken about recently. In his “end of the season press conference”, Dorsey expressed optimism in working with both Eric Berry and Dontari Poe. He specifically referred to Berry, telling reporters: “We’ve had very positive conversations with his representatives. … Hopefully two sides can come together and mesh this thing out.” However, optimism aside, there will still be plenty of work to be done. Over The Cap currently puts the Chiefs available salary cap for 2017 at approximately $4.7 million. There is no amount of financial wizardry that will make that amount of money work for both Eric Berry and Dontari Poe. On top of that, you also have to factor in the incoming draft class and other pending free agents who need to be re-signed. Options Are Available Fortunately, the Kansas City Chiefs have some options for freeing up more cap space. Specifically, there is the contract of backup quarterback Nick Foles. Rumors have come out that the Chiefs do not intend to pick up the team option on Foles for the 2017 season. That will open up a projected $6.75 million in cap space. If that is true, the Chiefs are suddenly in business. Another option for the Chiefs is to address the contract of running back Jamaal Charles. Charles is currently slated to make $6.1 million in 2017, which is a number KC can’t afford to pay him. I’ve talked about this situation before, and came up with a solution that would lower his cap hit to $2.8 million in 2017. That opens an additional $3.3 million in cap space to work with. If the Kansas City Chiefs are able to work both the Nick Foles and Jamaal Charles situations as I have laid out, that would give the team $14.75 million in salary cap room to work with. Now we can get down to business.
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02-22-2017, 11:16 AM	#21
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02-22-2017, 11:17 AM	#22
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Chiefs Rumor: Chiefs to cut Foles? This has been talked about a lot on here, but this story has a little different spin to it. http://kckingdom.com/2017/02/16/kans...or-draft-pick/ The Kansas City Chiefs are expected to decline the option of retaining quarterback Nick Foles. That opens the door for the team to draft a quarterback early. It has been expected for a while now that the Kansas City Chiefs would decline the contract option on backup quarterback Nick Foles. The journeyman backup was simply an expense the team could not afford given other pending contracts. However, the release of Foles brings an added benefit as there will now be a clear opening for a quarterback to be added in the upcoming draft. The quarterback position as a whole has been a huge topic of discussion all offseason. Many fans are clamoring for a change at the position. Of course, when presented with the alternative options, it quickly becomes clear that Alex Smith isn’t going anywhere. That’s why this decision to move on from Foles is so important. Chiefs fans should expect the team to make an early effort in the draft to grab a quarterback. It should also be assumed that the team has someone in mind. Though the cap relief in releasing Foles is important, KC did have other options. That means they have made at least some kind of decision regarding the future at quarterback. There are no shortage of possible options. Already there have been many articles posted that tie various college quarterbacks to Kansas City. Of course, realistically, we are no closer to knowing who that player might be. I have been of the opinion for a while now that the Kansas City Chiefs would stick with Alex Smith until a quality future option presented itself. The Chiefs were rumored to have been interested in Paxton Lynch last year. Of course, the Broncos ruined that, and may actually be paying for it. However, that rumor, along with the recent report on Foles, lends some credibility to the idea that the team is looking for their quarterback of the future. NEXT: Chiefs Quarterback Dilemma: Alex Smith Vs Kirk Cousins I won’t venture a guess on who it is that the Kansas City Chiefs like right now. More than likely, they have a few names circled. It will be interesting to see what John Dorsey is willing to do to get that quarterback. If it is one of the top names in the draft, they will likely have to trade up. It could also be that the Chiefs like a quarterback that nobody is even considering yet.
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02-22-2017, 11:28 AM	#24
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Chiefs Rumor: Cut Alex..Sign Cousins? http://kckingdom.com/2017/02/15/kans...-kirk-cousins/ Another season, another time to speculate as to what the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback situation will be in 2017. How does Alex Smith look against some of the available free agents? Here’s a breakdown of Smith and Kirk Cousins. Looking at the Chiefs’ early exit from the playoffs, it wouldn’t be too crazy of a theory to say that the Kansas City Chiefs would have advanced further in the playoffs with a better quarterback. That doesn’t mean the loss was all Alex Smith‘s fault though. Smith really didn’t play terribly at all, but he also didn’t play terrific football either. The fallout from this last postseason is very real and everyone is now debating about who the next quarterback will be for the KC Chiefs. Alex Smith is a topic of conversation in Kansas City and has been since arriving to town in 2013. There is no doubt that the Chiefs could do much worse at quarterback, even if some fans don’t want to admit it. There’s also the side of that fans know the team could do much better at the most important position in the sport. That’s the whole crux of this. Alex Smith is about as middle of the road as it gets at quarterback. This offseason presents a lot of free agent quarterbacks that the Chiefs could take a gamble on. I’m going to go through this one option at a time and we’ll see if we can find that better option. Today we’re going to put Smith up against Kirk Cousins of the Washington Redskins. So let’s see how they compare… Kansas City Chiefs Quarterback Options Alex Smith – Kansas City Chiefs As the reigning starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs, it’s only right that we give Alex Smith the first look. Smith has been with the Chiefs since 2013 when Andy Reid and John Dorsey traded a pair of second round picks to the 49ers for him. Alex Smith’s career with the Chiefs has led the team to nothing but winning seasons. KC has been no worse than 9-7 with Smith as the quarterback, and only went that low once. The team has made the postseason in three of the four years, and Smith has also earned a pair of Pro Bowl appearances. As a passer he makes very few mistakes and doesn’t turn the ball over, which helps KC win the field position battle consistently. “WE ALL FELT LIKE WE HAD AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY AND WE DIDN’T GET IT DONE. SO EVEN MORE SO, LET’S PRESS ON THE GAS AND LET’S GO.” ~ ALEX SMITH ON FRUSTRATING 2016 AND MOVING FORWARD. From the negatives persepctive, Alex Smith doesn’t take a lot of chances. In essence, what makes him a good quarterback is also what prevents him from being a great one. Smith rarely takes shots down the field, though this past season did show an added effort there. That’s a tough pill for Chiefs fans to swallow when we come up short. It’s easy to want to see more of a gunslinger mentality from Smith, but we don’t know how that would effect his ability to protect the ball. For his own part, Alex Smith understands the frustration. He’s talked about it before, and most recently alluded to it in an interview with the Kansas City Star. Smith told Terez Paylor: “We all felt like we had an awesome opportunity and we didn’t get it done. So even more so, let’s press on the gas and let’s go.” The Numbers 2013: 308/508 (60.6%) 3,313 yds; 23 TDs; 7 INTs; 76 carries 431 yds; 1 TD 2014: 303/464 (65.3%) 3,265 yds; 18 TDs; 6 INTs; 49 carries 259 yds; 1 TD 2015: 307/470 (65.3%) 3,486 yds; 20 TDs; 7 INTs; 84 carries 498 yds; 2 TD 2016: 328/429 (67.1%) 3,502 yds; 15 TDs; 8 INTs; 48 carries 134 yds; 5 TD Things could certainly be worse for the Kansas City Chiefs. Smith doesn’t put up huge numbers, but he doesn’t give the ball to the defense. There’s a lot to be said about that. From a financial point of view, his price tag isn’t outrageous for a quarterback. It will be tough for someone else to come in and be a clear improvement on Smith for the Chiefs. Kirk Cousins – Washington Redskins If the Kansas City Chiefs are truly intent on upgrading at quarterback, it’s hard to argue there is a better option than Kirk Cousins. The Redskins drafted Cousins to be the backup to Robert Griffin III, but things worked out much differently. Cousins has started the past two seasons and it primed for a big time contract either from Washington or on the free agent market. Since getting the chance to start, Kirk Cousins has had some up and down moments, but looks the part of a franchise quarterback. He’s got a solid arm and reads the field well. Cousins moves well in the pocket and can pick up yards with his legs in a pinch. He seems to have all the tools to succeed in the NFL. However, there are moments when you wonder exactly what it is you are watching with Kirk Cousins on the field. There are some head scratching performances that give you a moment’s pause. Cousins can also tend to disappear a bit in big time games. All of these things are what keeps people from declaring him a top option at quarterback. Kirk Cousins is saying all the right things about staying in Washington. However, the Redskins have painted themselves into a corner on this and it’s hard to know how it will turn out. Washington should give Cousins a new contract, but it’s fully possible they won’t. With the team already using the Franchise tag on him in 2016, it seems like an unlikely scenario to do it again. The Numbers 2013: 81/155 (52.3%) 155 yds; 4 TDs; 7 INTs; 4 carries 14 yds; 0 TD 2014: 126/204 (61.8%) 1,710 yds; 10 TDs; 9 INTs; 7 carries 20 yds; 0 TD 2015: 379/543 (69.8%) 4,166 yds; 29 TDs; 11 INTs; 26 carries 48 yds; 5 TD 2016: 406/606 (67%) 4,917 yds; 25 TDs; 12 INTs; 34 carries 96 yds; 4 TD The Contract 2012 $390,000 $118,172 $0 $0 $0 $508,172 2013 $480,000 $118,172 $0 $0 $0 $598,172 2014 $570,000 $118,172 $0 $0 $0 $688,172 2015 $660,000 $118,172 $0 $0 $0 $778,172 2016 $19,953,000 $19,953,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $19,953,000 If you’re buying the services of Kirk Cousins, you had better believe in his ability to lead the team. There is no doubt that Cousins will get a big quarterback contract from whomever he plays for in 2016. So if the Kansas City Chiefs are going to invest that kind of money, they had better be sure. The Winner – Kirk Cousins MORE FROM KANSAS CITY CHIEFS 2/22 - Kansas City Chiefs: Former Guard Geoff Schwartz Retires 2/22 - 2017 NFL Draft KC Chiefs Scouting Report: Teez Tabor 2/22 - Kansas City Chiefs: Making Poe And Berry Contracts Work In 2017 2/21 - Kansas City Chiefs: Five Games Most Likely To Be In Primetime In 2017 2/20 - 2017 NFL Draft KC Chiefs Scouting Report: Derek Barnett Yes, it would cost the Kansas City Chiefs quit a bit to sign Kirk Cousins. Yes, it is unclear just how good he really is. However, I have liked what I’ve seen from the former 4th-round pick, and I’m buying into him as an NFL franchise quarterback. So if the Chiefs are serious about upgrading the quarterback position, I am on board with Cousins being that option. Kirk Cousins has shown a lot in his young NFL career. Pairing him up with a coach with Andy Reid’s reputation for developing quarterbacks, and this could be a very dangerous offense. The only real trick here is the financials of the deal. If you’re bringing in Cousins, then both Alex Smith and Nick Foles have got to go. Even then, it would be tough for the Chiefs to work with some other key free agents. We want to hear from you #ChiefsKingdom! Who is the better option at QB for the #Chiefs? 12:17 PM - 12 Feb 2017 45%Alex Smith 55%Kirk Cousins Unfortunately, Kirk Cousins is probably the least readily available option for the Chiefs this offseason. While the two sides don’t seem to be making any headway, I really do not see a scenario where the Redskins let Cousins walk. It just wouldn’t make any sense. Especially with what is viewed by most to be a weak quarterback class.
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02-22-2017, 11:34 AM	#25
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $2775884	I was hoping for Cousins, but there is no way the Foreskins are stupid enough to let him go.
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02-22-2017, 11:36 AM	#27
In58men Baba Ganoush Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $2138026	If Grapopoloppo was the real deal, they would keep him right where he's at. I ****ing hate trading for QBs that rarely did anything. Everybody should have learned from Houstons mistake. __________________ My Kansas City Chief record 9-9
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02-22-2017, 11:39 AM	#29
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Chiefs Rumor: Cut or Restructure Jamaal Charles? http://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/02/2...amaal-charles/ The Jamaal Charles situation with the Kansas City Chiefs illustrates difficult a lasting relationship between player and franchise can be in the modern NFL. The contract Charles is currently under presents problem for John Dorsey and the Chiefs’ leadership. He signed that contract in 2014. It was a deal made by a player showing loyalty to the franchise and a franchise rewarding the player for excellent performance. Three seasons later in which the bulk of two seasons we lost to injury, the contract sits at an untenable position. In 2017, Charles is due to make significant a salary of $3.75 million as well as roster bonuses of $3 million and a workout bonus of $250k. Charles carries a cap number of $6.19 million dollars into the 2017 league year. The bigger worry is Charles’ physical condition. Very little has been reported on his progress in recovery from the meniscus repairs he had following his short-lived return from an ACL repair. In light of these injuries, the contract may be a moot point if Charles is not able to return to the field. If he’s unable to participate in offseason activities, the decision may make itself.
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