"Obesity is a disease not a decision"

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

We all know where this is leading don't we? To fats being protected as a "disadvantaged" class, with government protections. Anti-disrimination stuff. Probably allow them to sit in the handicap seats at stadiums and park in the handicap spots. And we all know which political party will go after them with this line of thinking.

You're such a miserable person. You're over the top paranoid and all you do is complain about everything. Perhaps you should seek help.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

We all know where this is leading don't we? To fats being protected as a "disadvantaged" class, with government protections. Anti-disrimination stuff. Probably allow them to sit in the handicap seats at stadiums and park in the handicap spots. And we all know which political party will go after them with this line of thinking.

If I wanted this thread to be in the DC I would have put it there myself.

douche.

[ThaVirus]

Disgusting.

There's got to be a ridiculously small percentage of the population that can actually blame their weight woes on a medical condition. Most people just like food and lounging too much to do anything about it. Close your mouth and move your legs; it's very simple.

[Prison Bitch]

It's obviously a choice to be fat. In 1980 few were fat. If we were really meant to have fat people in our society, why did it just start recently?


If you are fat stop eating fast food. Drink water for every meal. You will lose weight immediately.

[Saulbadguy]

If alcoholism is a disease I imagine obesity could be classified as one too.

[WhiteWhale]

People have no sense of personal accountability anymore...

[Sannyasi]

Sorry but you are conflating two different things. Obesity can be a choice and still be a disease. If a smoker gets lung cancer, is it not a disease in their case because they chose to smoke? Does someone who tans everyday and gets skin cancer not have a disease? Why is Type 2 Diabetes, which is the result of obesity, a disease but obesity isn't?

I don't know whether obesity should be classified as a disease or not, I just think your argument is horseshit.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Sannyasi

Sorry but you are conflating two different things. Obesity can be a choice and still be a disease. If a smoker gets lung cancer, is it not a disease in their case because they chose to smoke? Does someone who tans everyday and gets skin cancer not have a disease? Why is Type 2 Diabetes, which is the result of obesity, a disease but obesity isn't?

I don't know whether obesity should be classified as a disease or not, I just think your argument is horseshit.

Over-eating causes obesity (a condition) which causes diseases (like heart disease and diabetes).

This is the same line of shit they pull with alcoholism. Alcoholism is not a disease. It's a self inflicted condition created by the choices that person has made. Obesity is a self inflicted condition that raises your chance of all kinds of diseases, but people are not simply 'stricken' with obesity unless they have a legit medical condition (as some do).

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Sannyasi

I don't know whether obesity should be classified as a disease or not, I just think your argument is horseshit.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Over-eating causes obesity (a condition) which causes diseases (like heart disease and diabetes).

See above. Obesity is a condition, not a disease. Obesity leads to other diseases.

Perfectly said, WhiteWhale.

[Sannyasi]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Over-eating causes obesity (a condition) which causes diseases (like heart disease and diabetes).

This is the same line of shit they pull with alcoholism. Alcoholism is not a disease. It's a self inflicted condition created by the choices that person has made. Obesity is a self inflicted condition that raises your chance of all kinds of diseases, but people are not simply 'stricken' with obesity unless they have a legit medical condition (as some do).

This is why I am not sure that it is a disease. If you take the line that addiction is a disease, then you could even say that obesity is just a symptom. My point is that you can't argue that something isn't a disease because it is the result of choice.

[houstonwhodat]

Originally Posted by Sannyasi

This is why I am not sure that it is a disease. If you take the line that addiction is a disease, then you could even say that obesity is just a symptom. My point is that you can't argue that something isn't a disease because it is the result of choice.

This.

People who are obese are not necessarily lazy.

They have addiction problems. Same as alcohol.

Alcoholism and Obesity are symptoms of the disease and the disease is addiction.

You can be addicted to anything some without negative consequences.

You can be addicted to work, working out, sex, chocolate, food, alcohol, etc.

Anorexia is a symptom of of the disease of addiction. The addiction of wanting to be thin at all costs.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

This.

People who are obese are not necessarily lazy.

They have addiction problems. Same as alcohol.

Alcoholism and Obesity are symptoms of the disease and the disease is addiction.

You can be addicted to anything some without negative consequences.

You can be addicted to work, working out, sex, chocolate, food, alcohol, etc.

Anorexia is a symptom of of the disease of addiction. The addiction of wanting to be thin at all costs.

You're fat, aren't you?

Am I addicted to exercise because I go 3-4x a week and eat healthy and like to look good with my shirt off?

The "I can be addicted to anything" is a tiresome argument.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Over-eating causes obesity (a condition) which causes diseases (like heart disease and diabetes).

This is the same line of shit they pull with alcoholism. Alcoholism is not a disease. It's a self inflicted condition created by the choices that person has made. Obesity is a self inflicted condition that raises your chance of all kinds of diseases, but people are not simply 'stricken' with obesity unless they have a legit medical condition (as some do).

Not true. I know a lot of people that over eat but are not over weight. I know a lot of people that watch what they eat and are very careful because they can gain weight easily. There are too many variables to say that.

[Sannyasi]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Not true. I know a lot of people that over eat but are not over weight. I know a lot of people that watch what they eat and are very careful because they can gain weight easily. There are too many variables to say that.

Sorry but this is an excuse people make. Metabolism doesn't have nearly the impact on weight that people imagine, but the effect that it does have can be boosted by exercising. If you have a poor metabolism, you can change that.

Weight loss/gain really isn't some mystery, its physics. Calories in, calories out. Your body isn't cheating you, but you might be underestimating how much you eat or overestimating the amount of calories you are burning.