2014 NFL Combine - Players - The WRs

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Best 40 times for WRs, including a WR from Pitt State.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combin...ers-at-combine

A bad ass WR from Pitt State....

[philfree]

So how many WRs will be drafted in the first 22 picks?

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by philfree

So how many WRs will be drafted in the first 22 picks?

I can see possibly 4.

Evans and Watkins are definitely gone.

Lee and Beckham can go as well.

That would leave us with Matthews, Cooks, and Landry in the next group.

I think Landry might drop to the 3rd round now though because of his exceptionally slow 40. Really is the next Boldin.

Would you trade up for Mike Evans?

Also, the strength of this WR class might make Ebron fall to us.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

I can see possibly 4.

Evans and Watkins are definitely gone.

Lee and Beckham can go as well.

That would leave us with Matthews, Cooks, and Landry in the next group.

I think Landry might drop to the 3rd round now though because of his exceptionally slow 40. Really is the next Boldin.

Would you trade up for Mike Evans?

Also, the strength of this WR class might make Ebron fall to us.

Where does Benjamin go?

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by bowener

Where does Benjamin go?

I don't really like Benjamin all that much. For a guy with his measurables, he doesn't high point the ball consistently enough, he drops too many passes, and he took a long time to do anything in Florida State despite playing with 2 NFL Starting caliber QBs his entire college career and on a team that doesn't really have any outstanding WRs besides Green. Makes me question his dedication and football IQ a lot. If he had produced consistently for at least 2 seasons there would be some merit to him being selected in the 1st round of this draft class; but he's just too risky to be taken that highly especially with the depth of talent at WR and across the board this year. I honestly don't think that he is any better than Brandon Coleman out of Rutgers. Benjamin isn't very explosive and won't be able to create the separation that you would want out of your WRs. For a big WR to succeed in the NFL, they have to display dominant hands and the ability to absolutely dominate at the point of the catch. Evans has it, Benjamin doesn't. That's why the league isn't filled with a ton of 6'5" + big bodied WRs and instead has an overwhelming amount of 5'10"-6'1", 180-215 pound WRs who can create separation with their quickness, route running, and speed instead. Not a lot of really big Wrs are actually truly dominant at the point of the catch.

Want Benjamin? Go sign Ramses Barden who has been in the league for 4 years and has done absolutely nothing.

I say that Benjamin doesn't go until rounds 2-3. He's not a 1st rounder, especially not in this draft class.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

I don't really like Benjamin all that much. For a guy with his measurables, he doesn't high point the ball consistently enough, he drops too many passes, and he took a long time to do anything in Florida State despite playing with 2 NFL Starting caliber QBs his entire college career and on a team that doesn't really have any outstanding WRs besides Green. Makes me question his dedication and football IQ a lot. If he had produced consistently for at least 2 seasons there would be some merit to him being selected in the 1st round of this draft class; but he's just too risky to be taken that highly especially with the depth of talent at WR and across the board this year. I honestly don't think that he is any better than Brandon Coleman out of Rutgers. Benjamin isn't very explosive and won't be able to create the separation that you would want out of your WRs. For a big WR to succeed in the NFL, they have to display dominant hands and the ability to absolutely dominate at the point of the catch. Evans has it, Benjamin doesn't. That's why the league isn't filled with a ton of 6'5" + big bodied WRs and instead has an overwhelming amount of 5'10"-6'1", 180-215 pound WRs who can create separation with their quickness, route running, and speed instead. Not a lot of really big Wrs are actually truly dominant at the point of the catch.

Want Benjamin? Go sign Ramses Barden who has been in the league for 4 years and has done absolutely nothing.

I say that Benjamin doesn't go until rounds 2-3. He's not a 1st rounder, especially not in this draft class.

Because all tall big WRs are the next Ramses Barden lol. Evans couldn't break from a route to save his life today. Benjamin is a monster.

[Wilson8]

For value at where he is projected in the draft, I would take Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin 6'1", 195 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands, and 4.50 40 time. He is projected as a 3rd rounder. He was also a punt returner before his senior season. If McCluster does not come back, we will need someone to handle that role.

He had some very good games at Wisconsin. He was one of the better Senior Bowl WRs in the practice sessions .

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Wilson8

For value at where he is projected in the draft, I would take Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin 6'1", 195 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands, and 4.50 40 time. He is projected as a 3rd rounder. He was also a punt returner before his senior season. If McCluster does not come back, we will need someone to handle that role.

He had some very good games at Wisconsin. He was one of the better Senior Bowl WRs in the practice sessions .

Really savvy route runner. People just aren't sure how he'll handle physical corners though.

[jonzie04]

my favorite Wr for our first pick at this point would be Jordan Matthews. unmatched production and great speed for his size. he has superstar potential as a number 1 WR. liked cook's production, but lets be honest, he doesn't catch anywhere near that amount of balls in the sec. I like him as much as beckham but I feel they're both pretty limited to the the slot, or can play #2 with a true #1 wide out on the opposite side. Matthews reminds me of his cousin jerry rice. he might not be the flashiest Wr but he produces game in and game out, year in and year out.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

my favorite Wr for our first pick at this point would be Jordan Matthews. unmatched production and great speed for his size. he has superstar potential as a number 1 WR. liked cook's production, but lets be honest, he doesn't catch anywhere near that amount of balls in the sec. I like him as much as beckham but I feel they're both pretty limited to the the slot, or can play #2 with a true #1 wide out on the opposite side. Matthews reminds me of his cousin jerry rice. he might not be the flashiest Wr but he produces game in and game out, year in and year out.

Beckham has just enough size to develop into a #1. He has pretty good length due to his long arms and big hands to be able to make the tough catches. He's going to go ahead of our pick though, I don't see the Jets passing on him if Evans and Watkins are gone. I think they would take Beckham over Ebron in all honesty.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

my favorite Wr for our first pick at this point would be Jordan Matthews. unmatched production and great speed for his size. he has superstar potential as a number 1 WR. liked cook's production, but lets be honest, he doesn't catch anywhere near that amount of balls in the sec. I like him as much as beckham but I feel they're both pretty limited to the the slot, or can play #2 with a true #1 wide out on the opposite side. Matthews reminds me of his cousin jerry rice. he might not be the flashiest Wr but he produces game in and game out, year in and year out.

This. Listen to the interview from 11/21 on the Jim Rome show. 2/14 is good too.

http://jimrome.com/2014/02/14/jordan-matthews/

Matthews' attitude is extremely rare for a WR. He is a winner. He's a big athlete too. 6'3" 212 lbs and a 4.46 40. Set all the SEC receiving records. GREAT HANDS!

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ews?id=2543500

[jonzie04]

[QUOTE=kcbubb;10464115]This. Listen to the interview from 11/21 on the Jim Rome show. 2/14 is good too.



Matthews' attitude is extremely rare for a WR. He is a winner. He's a big athlete too. 6'3" 212 lbs and a 4.46 40. Set all the SEC receiving records. GREAT HANDS!



a lot of people say all of the right things, and most of them come off a bit rehearsed to me in interviews, but I can tell he's a guy that means what he says, and practices what he preaches. I can't wait to see how his career goes. hopefully its in a red or white uni. thanks for sharing!

[OldSchool]

[QUOTE=jonzie04;10466363]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

This. Listen to the interview from 11/21 on the Jim Rome show. 2/14 is good too.



Matthews' attitude is extremely rare for a WR. He is a winner. He's a big athlete too. 6'3" 212 lbs and a 4.46 40. Set all the SEC receiving records. GREAT HANDS!



a lot of people say all of the right things, and most of them come off a bit rehearsed to me in interviews, but I can tell he's a guy that means what he says, and practices what he preaches. I can't wait to see how his career goes. hopefully its in a red or white uni. thanks for sharing!

Yup. He and Carr worked together after practice at the Senior Bowl on endzone routes. They got a couple of other guys to join in later as well.

[OldSchool]

Moncrief is explosive as hell, especially for his size, but has a lot of bad tape from last season. He literally looks nonchalant at times, just like Bowe. Doesn't look interested in blocking at all, showed no tenacity or drive to dominate his opponents. I worry about his will to become great. Has all the physical tools, just don't think that the drive is there.

[Wilson8]

I think both Moncrief and Abbrederis could help the Chiefs, but I would prefer Abbrederis.

Donte Moncrief, Mississippi – 6 catch, 122 yards, 2 TD against Auburn. 5 catch, 107 yards against LSU. 7 catch, 149 yards, 1 TD. 6 catch, 115 yards against Missouri. 6 catch, 113 yards, 1 TD against Georgia Tech.

Jared Abbrederis – 10 catches, 207 yards, 1 TD against Ohio State’s Bradley Roby. 2 catches, 122 yards, 2 TDs against Massachusetts. 6 catch, 87 yards against Arizona State. 7 catch, 94 yards against Purdue. 8 catch, 106 yards against Illinois. 12 catch, 135 yards against Penn State. He had a total of 78 receptions, 1081 yards, and 7 TDs in 2013. He had 49 receptions, 837 yards, 5 TDs in 2012. Also, in 2012, 43 punt returns, 315 yards, 1 TD.