Chiefs The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it - Page 23

Fat Elvis · 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.

Strongside · 03-05-2013, 10:34 PM

Dude...tannehill?

**BossChief** · 03-05-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No.

No, no, no, no, no.

Do you REALLY believe that Ted Thompson would have taken Aaron Rodgers #1 overall?

Have you been paying any attention?

If we re-draft 2005, Rodgers goes first overall.

NO QUESTION.

If we re-draft 2011, does Kaepernick go first overall?

What are the top three picks of 2012, if we re-draft it today?

**BossChief** · 03-05-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

**** yeah I'd be cheering if Albert were traded for a first round pick!

Are you insane?

JFC DANE, FOLLOW ALONG.

If we lose Albert and come out of the first round with Joeckel and Warmack, we essentially used the first overall pick on a guard.

O.city · 03-05-2013, 10:37 PM

If they could trade Albert for that second round pick and maybe an additional third, fine. Take Joeckel or Fisher and take a developmental QB in the 2nd.

I don't think they'll do that, seems they think they can win now. I don't know how excited they would be about trotting a rookie LT out there if that were the case.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

How long was Kaepernick and Smith on the same team again. The 49ers didn't want Alex Smith and Kaepernick the QBOTF, why should we? You don't invest a 2cd and 9 million for 1 QB and then invest the 1st overall in the SAME draft on the same position.

First off Hillbilly, it's "How long were".

Secondly, Harbaugh was hired during the lockout. He had no time with Smith, no minicamps, no personal time, nothing. They drafted Kap in the second round, not the first, and he was a developmental project.

Furthermore, Kap is a dual-threat QB that can throw a 50 TD or run at TD from the 50 yard line, something he did more than once. Since he showed he was ready to become the starter after Smith went out with a concussion, who in their right mind would yank Kap for Smith, other than Marty Schottenheimer?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-05-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

There would be people cheering the result if we traded Albert for a first rounder and took Joeckel and Warmack with our two first rounders.

And I would be cheering from the grassy knoll through a sniper rifle.
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**BossChief** · 03-05-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

what stuns me, is that there are people here it seems that would take Geno Smith first, if he was in last years draft. He is being considered for the first pick in the draft, because there are no qbs in free agency, and the draft is littered with question marks. Im not sure if Geno Smith goes in the top 15 picks of the draft if he was in last years draft.....

That's just flat out silly.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

JFC DANE, FOLLOW ALONG.

If we lose Albert and come out of the first round with Joeckel and Warmack, we essentially used the first overall pick on a guard.

I don't need to follow anything, Dumb****.

There's no way that Reid and Dorsey would trade Albert for a first, then draft Yokel and Warmack.

You continue to create these scenarios that will NEVER happen, yet expect people not to call you out.

WTF?

How about this: The Chiefs trade Alex Smith, Brandon Albert and every draft choice for Joe Flacco? Sound like a good idea?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

And I would be cheering from the grassy knoll through a sniper rifle.
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Nah, you'd shoot yourself in the cock and bleed out

**BossChief** · 03-05-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't need to follow anything, Dumb****.

There's no way that Reid and Dorsey would trade Albert for a first, then draft Yokel and Warmack.

You continue to create these scenarios that will NEVER happen, yet expect people not to call you out.

WTF?

How about this: The Chiefs trade Alex Smith, Brandon Albert and every draft choice for Joe Flacco? Sound like a good idea?

You are being flat out ridiculous.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You are being flat out ridiculous.

No more ridiculous than you, Dude

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-05-2013, 10:49 PM

**** it; trade everyone of value and draft an entire new line! God DAMN that's some Chiefs "thinking" right there. True Fans are a goddamned abboration of God, Nature, and Science, all rolled in to a big ball of goose shit.
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**BossChief** · 03-05-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No more ridiculous than you, Dude

I'd rather have Pennington than a clone of Will Shields or Joe Thomas.

Do you agree?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I'd rather have Pennington than a clone of Will Shields or Joe Thomas.

Do you agree?

No, I do not agree.

With Joe Thomas and Will Shields, there's always hope that a real Franchise QB will be acquired. The protection will be solid.

With Chad Pennington, a franchise could spend the better part of a decade watching elite and near elite players come and go, as Pennington continues to offer false hope to the front office, ownership and most importantly, fans.

Chief Roundup · 03-05-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

First off Hillbilly, it's "How long were".

Secondly, Harbaugh was hired during the lockout. He had no time with Smith, no minicamps, no personal time, nothing. They drafted Kap in the second round, not the first, and he was a developmental project.

Furthermore, Kap is a dual-threat QB that can throw a 50 TD or run at TD from the 50 yard line, something he did more than once. Since he showed he was ready to become the starter after Smith went out with a concussion, who in their right mind would yank Kap for Smith, other than Marty Schottenheimer?

Oh boy the grammar police. **** off dickbag. Still either way thanks for helping prove my point they didn't get both of those players in the same draft/offseason.

03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $1531925	The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1. People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily. What? That is nonsense! Only in the traditional sense. I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one. If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well. Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you. If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat. It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over. Reid and Dorsey get this. As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs. We are being built to win. We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies. We are going to win. And I like it.
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