Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No shit.

Even more disturbing, is that from what I've heard on the radio, some people actually want the first option to come from trading for someone's backup.


I don't understand. Are they just scared that if we draft one he'll bust? They only are willing to draft a sure thing?

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by O.city

Even more disturbing, is that from what I've heard on the radio, some people actually want the first option to come from trading for someone's backup.


I don't understand. Are they just scared that if we draft one he'll bust? They only are willing to draft a sure thing?

I have a theory.

I think it's the "casual" fan's way of expressing how big their football IQ is. They feel that they understand the ins & outs of the NFL draft better than everyone else. They are critical thinkers. You QB or bust people are just bandwagoners who don't see the big picture.

"Trade back! the VALUE isn't there. If he's projected as the 10th best prospect, trade back to 8 and get him there!" <------ One of the most over used and ridiculous arguments out there. It's as if they think we are picking 15th overall or something.

"Draft one in the second round and let him sit a year or two" <----- Usually said right after the "value" argument. They feel that young QB's can't have early success. Clear sign that they still think it's 1995.

"Take a LT, teams are built from the inside out" <------ more proof they still live in 1995.

"Bring in Alex Smith for a year or two" <-----conceding that mediocrity is good enough....at least for a year or two and then it's time to trade for our next Back up QBoTF.

All of these things make them smarter than you. They understand how the NFL works.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I have a theory.

I think it's the "casual" fan's way of expressing how big their football IQ is. They feel that they understand the ins & outs of the NFL draft better than everyone else. They are critical thinkers. You QB or bust people are just bandwagoners who don't see the big picture.

"Trade back! the VALUE isn't there. If he's projected as the 10th best prospect, trade back to 8 and get him there!" <------ One of the most over used and ridiculous arguments out there. It's as if they think we are picking 15th overall or something.

"Draft one in the second round and let him sit a year or two" <----- Usually said right after the "value" argument. They feel that young QB's can't have early success. Clear sign that they still think it's 1995.

"Take a LT, teams are built from the inside out" <------ more proof they still live in 1995.

"Bring in Alex Smith for a year or two" <-----conceding that mediocrity is good enough....at least for a year or two and then it's time to trade for our next Back up QBoTF.

All of these things make them smarter than you. They understand how the NFL works.

Yeah, I guess.


In the end, I think it's that most of them are actually, True Fans. They just want the Chiefs to win 8 or 9 games, parking lots to be bbq smelling and smoke filled and the stadium to be full. They see these other guys, who they've watched be somewhat successful in the league and they think that way is less risky.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Even more disturbing, is that from what I've heard on the radio, some people actually want the first option to come from trading for someone's backup.


I don't understand. Are they just scared that if we draft one he'll bust? They only are willing to draft a sure thing?

And the real tragedy is that they are happy with someone else's backup. The backup. Not the starter, the guy that is behind the starter. Let's get that ****ing guy because he's got to be so good that the other team is willing to let them go versus the guy who is starting.

The ****ing backup.

That's the history of the Chiefs QB position.

30 ****ing years since we took a QB in the first round.

28 ****ing years since a QB they have drafted has even won a game.

20 years since we've won a playoff game.

See a pattern here?

The backup.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And the real tragedy is that they are happy with someone else's backup. The backup. Not the starter, the guy that is behind the starter. Let's get that ****ing guy because he's got to be so good that the other team is willing to let them go versus the guy who is starting.

The ****ing backup.

That's the history of the Chiefs QB position.

30 ****ing years since we took a QB in the first round.

28 ****ing years since a QB they have drafted has even won a game.

20 years since we've won a playoff game.

See a pattern here?

The backup.

Yeah, if we were trading for someone else's starter, fine.

But it's a backup. The 2nd best QB on another squad.

[Rambozo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Even more disturbing, is that from what I've heard on the radio, some people actually want the first option to come from trading for someone's backup.


I don't understand. Are they just scared that if we draft one he'll bust? They only are willing to draft a sure thing?

There are a lot of people who feel like there is not a QB in this class who is ready to start from day one. I'm not one of those people. I think Wilson is ready now. I'm just saying that there are a ton of people who feel that way.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Rambozo

There are a lot of people who feel like there is not a QB in this class who is ready to start from day one. I'm not one of those people. I think Wilson is ready now. I'm just saying that there are a ton of people who feel that way.

The thing is, even if there isn't a guy there ready to start day 1, do you sacrifice the long term goal of winning a Super Bowl in order to go 9-7 next year?

It's like a large portion of this fanbase would rather have Alex Smith than Aaron Rodgers.