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keg in kc · 04-25-2011, 03:51 PM

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:

No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...

PhillyChiefFan · 06-15-2015, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Melisandre always says kings blood shows her things. Maybe she saw something with Snow when they burned Shireen and went back realizing if she helps him that is the true person to be backing.

I don't know, the look on her face pretty much reflected a soul crushing blow. Like she was questioning everything she believed in.

I'd have to think if she went back to back Jon Snow she would have immediately started her whole "I saw in the flames" BS as soon as she arrived at Castle Black.

Amnorix · 06-15-2015, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

I don't know, the look on her face pretty much reflected a soul crushing blow. Like she was questioning everything she believed in.

I'd have to think if she went back to back Jon Snow she would have immediately started her whole "I saw in the flames" BS as soon as she arrived at Castle Black.

Well, maybe she also saw Davos stabbing her to death if she showed a lack of sympathy for Shireen?

Hawk · 06-15-2015, 08:47 AM

The Red Viper and his brother Doran would not kill Myrcella, I think he was being truthful to Cersei there. So that had to have been Ellaria and possibly the Sand Snakes. Which is dumb because the Red Viper caused his own death, and he would never have wanted for them to try to "avenge" him by killing an innocent girl.

PhillyChiefFan · 06-15-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Good question. I thought that "nod" between the Prince and whatshername was the signal, but perhaps it was more a "play nice" nod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btDlu-zraWA

P.S. Isn't the Prince of Dorne on that same ship? In killing Myrcella, they pretty much sentenced him to death also if so. Seems politically stupid, and therefore more likely to indicate that you are right -- these are the idiotic Sand Snakes doing what they do).

I didn't even think of that. Though Jamie doesn't know that she was poisoned immediately afterwards so who knows. I would say Bronn would figure it out though after his run in with the hot sand snake.

Maybe they are willing to sacrifice him since he's headed to King's Landing now.

PhillyChiefFan · 06-15-2015, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Well, maybe she also saw Davos stabbing her to death if she showed a lack of sympathy for Shireen?

Well then, here's to hoping Davos finds out it was her idea to burn Shireen!!

Amnorix · 06-15-2015, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

I didn't even think of that. Though Jamie doesn't know that she was poisoned immediately afterwards so who knows. I would say Bronn would figure it out though after his run in with the hot sand snake.

Maybe they are willing to sacrifice him since he's headed to King's Landing now.

First, just to correct myself -- the guy in the wheelchair (Doran Martell, the brother of Oberyn) is, technically, the "Prince of Dorne". Not sure why he is a prince, but whatever. His son is the heir, whatever he is called.

He is a political schemer. Think Tyrion-type. He isn't going to cast away his son so stupidly. Definitely a sand snake type of thing.

Amnorix · 06-15-2015, 09:10 AM

Perfect quote for Doran Martell. This is from the books (duh)

"I am not blind, nor deaf. I know you all believe me weak, frightened, feeble. Your father knew me better. Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him. I was the grass. Pleasant, complaisant, sweet-smelling, swaying with every breeze. Who fears to walk upon the grass? But it is the grass that hides the viper from his enemies and shelters him until he strikes.[21] ”

- Doran to the Sand Snakes

**wazu** · 06-15-2015, 10:06 AM

With Jon dead and Sam having relocated, I'd now be okay with the White Walkers overrunning the wall and taking Winterfell. I'll feel a bit of regret when the wildlings die, but everybody else I will be rooting for the White Walkers to win. In fact the can go ahead and take all of Westeros.

kcfanXIII · 06-15-2015, 10:48 AM

I am pretty much done with this show. As has been mentioned, all my favorite characters are dead, or damaged (Arya being blinded.) It was a hell of a risk to end the season this way. Despite the cliffhanger nature of the season finale, I am not finding myself saying "We have to wait for next year to find out?" No, I'm just pissed off.

Sure-Oz · 06-15-2015, 10:49 AM

You'll all be back

NewChief · 06-15-2015, 10:54 AM

Here's the deal: all the viewers are now going to get exposed to the huge amounts of theories and ideas and lore from the books that supports those theories and ideas about where things are going.

Book readers have been keeping their mouths shut, but now with the TV show caught up, book readers are going to be able to yammer on about all the possibilities.

Anyway, very very few book readers actually think Jon Snow is dead. Also with regards to Arya:

Spoiler!

KCUnited · 06-15-2015, 10:58 AM

Regarding Jon Snow, wouldn't they burn his body fairly quickly? It seems ol girl would have to act swiftly to change anything, unless maybe she can make something happen from his harvested blood.

MMXcalibur · 06-15-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

With Jon dead and Sam having relocated, I'd now be okay with the White Walkers overrunning the wall and taking Winterfell. I'll feel a bit of regret when the wildlings die, but everybody else I will be rooting for the White Walkers to win. In fact the can go ahead and take all of Westeros.

Best part about this: the White Walkers are already dead!

kcfanXIII · 06-15-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

You'll all be back

Yeah probably. I'm just not as excited for this show as I once was.

NewChief · 06-15-2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

Yeah probably. I'm just not as excited for this show as I once was.

That's probably about right. That's how I felt after reading the last two books as well. The show, and its differences, gave me some hope. But in the end, we're at the same basic spot in both the show and the books now, with the show, at least, arriving there much quicker and less painfully.

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Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Perfect quote for Doran Martell. This is from the books (duh) "I am not blind, nor deaf. I know you all believe me weak, frightened, feeble. Your father knew me better. Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him. I was the grass. Pleasant, complaisant, sweet-smelling, swaying with every breeze. Who fears to walk upon the grass? But it is the grass that hides the viper from his enemies and shelters him until he strikes.[21] ” - Doran to the Sand Snakes __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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