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Old 11-13-2013, 07:35 PM  
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I've enjoyed making these for games earlier in the year, so why not make one for the biggest game in recent Chiefs history?

What I hope happens

Charles has a monster game. He finishes the game with 26 rushes for 158 yards and a TD. He also catches 8 passes for 75 yards.

Alex Smith shows he has the ability to be more than just a game manager, throwing for 263 yards and two TDs. More importantly, he has no turnovers on the day.

The Chiefs defense and special teams come up big. Succop hits all 3 of his FG tries, including 2 from 50 plus yards. The Chiefs defense sacks Manning 5 times, causing a fumble on a strip sack by Derrick Johnson. Marcus Cooper returns a Manning INT for a TD.

Chiefs win 37-28
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:17 PM   #241
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:50 PM   #242
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Why would you expect him to play better in the future?

He's basically playing to his career averages right now
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Rediculous.

All things are equal through everyone's career right? I'm just as good at my job now as I was 15 years ago!
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:54 PM   #243
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Rediculous.

All things are equal through everyone's career right? I'm just as good at my job now as I was 15 years ago!
He's going to be 30 in May. He has 84 games of starting experience.

Improvement is not likely.

This is who he is.

And since i know you're going to disagree...go ahead and find me a quarterback who significantly changed his game and improved by a great deal after 80 starts.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:56 PM   #244
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Rediculous.

All things are equal through everyone's career right? I'm just as good at my job now as I was 15 years ago!
I don't know what kind of stats they keep in whatever you do but in the NFL they keep track of what you do per game, season, career.

I'm asking why you would think that after eight and a half years when he's putting up right around his career averages that he's going to play better in the future.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:57 PM   #245
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Rediculous.

All things are equal through everyone's career right? I'm just as good at my job now as I was 15 years ago!


I'm not going to bash Smith because he is what we all thought he was at this point.

A guy that can throw for 3,500 and 20 TD's in his best year.

He's not going to throw the team on his back and start chucking TD's or orchestrate some sort of phenomenal passing offense.

He'll get some yards with his legs, make some big plays here and there, and be overwhelmingly average the rest of the time.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:59 PM   #246
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I don't know what kind of stats they keep in whatever you do but in the NFL they keep track of what you do per game, season, career.

I'm asking why you would think that after eight and a half years when he's putting up right around his career averages that he's going to play better in the future.
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Andy Reid.

He's an offensive minded coach with a terrific defense. He'll make this offense, and Smith (by proxy) better in the off season.
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And since i know you're going to disagree...go ahead and find me a quarterback who significantly changed his game and improved by a great deal after 80 starts.
I'll wait for this one as well.

The tape is out on Alex. He's not taking anyone by surprise at this point.

He is what he is.
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:03 PM   #248
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I'm not going to bash Smith because he is what we all thought he was at this point.

A guy that can throw for 3,500 and 20 TD's in his best year.

He's not going to throw the team on his back and start chucking TD's or orchestrating some sort of phenomenal passing offense.

He'll get some yards with his legs, make some big plays here and there, and be overwhelmingly average the rest of the time.
Never said that.

Here is a better way to put it.

When my career is over, I hope my overall average is higher than the average of the first 1/2 of my career.
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He's going to be 30 in May. He has 84 games of starting experience.

Improvement is not likely.

This is who he is.

And since i know you're going to disagree...go ahead and find me a quarterback who significantly changed his game and improved by a great deal after 80 starts.
Why 80 starts? Is that a magic number because it fits your agenda?

Steve Young, Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Eli Manning and many others had non descript early careers.
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Why 80 starts? IS that a magic number because it fits your agenda?

Steve Young, Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Eli Manning and many others had non descript early creers.
That's how many starts Alex has.

You're sitting here telling me he's going to improve after he's been Mr. Meh for 80 starts.

Find me an example.

And none of the guys you listed made quantum leaps after their 80th start, sorry.
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Andy Reid.

He's an offensive minded coach with a terrific defense. He'll make this offense, and Smith (by proxy) better in the off season.
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That's how many starts Alex has.

You're sitting here telling me he's going to improve after he's been Mr. Meh for 80 starts.

Find me an example.

And none of the guys you listed made quantum leaps after their 80th start, sorry.
Ok you win Alex is the only QB in the league with 80 crappy starts to go 9-0, 27-6-1 and will have a better win record than Kap this year (gasp you were wrong yet again) costing you $$, well not likely since you will welch on the bet.
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How many times did we hear Alex couldn't win throwing more than 24 times a game?

Then he does and its, well Alex isn't winning the team is.
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Why 80 starts? Is that a magic number because it fits your agenda?

Steve Young, Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Eli Manning and many others had non descript early careers.
Peyton Manning made his 80th regular season start to end 2002. He got better.

Tom Brady end of 2006. He got better.

Drew Brees.
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Manning's average QB rating when playing in temperatures colder than 30, is around 75. Lets hope for a freeze.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/den...347810?hour=81

According to this, a temp of 31 in the evening (real-feel: 24) on Sunday evening can be expected.
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