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Old 01-13-2013, 05:30 PM   #1
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And maybe if Manning didn't have a history of melting down at crucial points in postseason games, he'd be trusted more. But...


But in that situation, you have to take the most time off the clock as possible.

But hey, according to you, 1:15 is the same as 1:50 so I don't think clock management is your strong suite.

Once again, you can't say somebody is a choker and then insist that they should have the ball in their hands in crucial late game situations. That's a contradiction.
It really isn't a contradiction.

I don't care if it's Matt Cassel in that situation, I am going for the first down.

I know full well that the chances are very good that Matt Cassel ****s up, but I am going down swinging, regardless.

I am not going to throw in the towel.

Playing not to lose leads to losing.

I'd rather lose aggressively than lose like a pussy.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:31 PM   #2
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I honestly don't know why you are so thick headed here. You realize you're the only one that agrees with the run on that 3rd down call on this website? I've yet to see one post that is like "yeah, you run there."
On that same token, no one other than CoMo is really backing you up. In the game thread, the only other person that made a big deal out of it was KC_Connection.


CoMo and KC_Connection are not a group of people I'd be proud to have on my side...
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:33 PM   #3
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On that same token, no one other than CoMo is really backing you up. In the game thread, the only other person that made a big deal out of it was KC_Connection.


CoMo and KC_Connection are not a group of people I'd be proud to have on my side...
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:11 PM   #4
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How the **** did he prove me wrong? Because he threw a 70 yard fluke bomb?



I thought he was a choker?

If YOU admit that he's a choker, then how the hell can you say that he should have the ball in his hands in a crucial late game situation? Can't have it both ways.
So do you think Fox made the right call by running the ball then, taking it out of Manning's hands on 3rd n 7?

Can you give me a real answer that's not ridiculous ?
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:02 PM   #5
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the worst thing that could have happened, I guess, is a pick 6...and in that case at least you get the ball back with 1:50, 3 T.O.'s and all you need is a field goal!

You know, rather than 30 seconds, 2 T.O.'s so you can kneel the ball for some reason!

It's 2013 King...time for you to realize this is a passing game and that giving a team a shot to beat you is a bad, bad idea.

You watch the Hawks/Falcons game? Did you think Russel Wilson wasn't going to score that TD? Did you then see how easily Matt Ryan put them into field goal range?

in today's NFL you want to find a way to get to victory formation (unless you are Philip Rivers)...and the Broncos had that chance but instead elected to Marty it on 3rd and 7 and give Flacco the opportunity to do what he did.

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Old 01-13-2013, 05:03 PM   #6
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agreed...and if nothing is open he can just do his patented Manning fetal flop and the clock runs as well...

but at least play-action and see if you can get an open 8 yarder...the percentage of him throwing a pick in that situation is probably less than, you know, WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:05 PM   #7
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Fox's incompetence reached RAC levels.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:12 PM   #8
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yes, he does

I don't know why, but he does
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:15 PM   #9
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seriously

John Fox committed at least 2 fireable offenses yesterday.

and that safety should have probably immediately been cut after the game

it's a good thing I'm not the GM!
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:20 PM   #10
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Anybody notice that the Atlanta Falcons had the ball with less than 30 seconds left like the Broncos did, and they won the freaking game because their coach wasn't a giant pussy?

Oh that makes this so much more epic
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:29 PM   #11
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Anybody notice that the Atlanta Falcons had the ball with less than 30 seconds left like the Broncos did, and they won the freaking game because their coach wasn't a giant pussy?

Oh that makes this so much more epic
Yep, adds a bit more flavor to already tasty tears.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:23 PM   #12
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here is my only defense to the whole thing

maybe Peyton really couldn't throw the ball 20-30 yards.

Their offense was dink and dunk ball control 10-15 yard dig routes the whole game...

maybe they thought if he aired it out at the end he'd throw a duck that would result in a pick, and they had a better chance to get a stop in OT and dink and dunk their way to field goal range like they tried doing a few times before they got stuffed on 3rd and 1 and Peyton threw a terrible pick

but that still doesn't mean you run the ball on 3rd and 7 when Peyton could clearly throw an 8 yard pass and had been doing it effectively the entire game AND had a situation where play-action probably would have left someone open for a quick hitter as well
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if that's the case though and old Manning can't throw 30 yards any more in the cold then Denver isn't going to win anything anytime soon
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:39 PM   #14
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remember when BB went for it on 4th and 2 in their own territory to try and keep the ball out of Manning's hands only for Indy to stop them and then drive 30 yards for the win?

that was highly criticized

but at least Belichick realized he had a chance to win it right then and there and he rather trust his guy to get 2 yards and not have to trust his defense to keep Peyton out of the end zone

this was 3RD DOWN...all he had to do was complete a 7 yard pass...and they win

but instead you think punting (where a number of things could go wrong as well) and giving Joe Flacco 75 seconds (he can throw 65 yards no problem) is a better way to win the game.
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Denver also had a top 3 defense this year, where as that Pats D was asshole.


I get what you are saying and I might have threw the ball there, but what he did was understandable.
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