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[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

I don't think so. Herm was good at drafting talented players and that's about it. Belichik for all his setbacks, is a perfection visionary type CEO that leads teams to the promise lands.

You have to remember that Belichik drafted Brady and developed him behind Bledsoe as well, so some credit is do there.

What did Belichick win before Brady showed up? How average were his teams in Cleveland and New England?

Brady showed up and all the sudden Belichick was a genious....it's interesting to me that people don't think he'll suffer the same fate when he doesn't have Brady carrying his water that everyone else associated with that team has.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

What did Belichick win before Brady showed up? How average were his teams in Cleveland and New England?

Brady showed up and all the sudden Belichick was a genious....it's interesting to me that people don't think he'll suffer the same fate when he doesn't have Brady carrying his water that everyone else associated with that team has.

Brady didn't win that first Super Bowl. The New England defense did.

With some help from a camera.

So in that sense, yes, BB was a visionary.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Brady didn't win that first Super Bowl. The New England defense did.

With some help from a camera.

So in that sense, yes, BB was a visionary.

That and Mike Martz refusing to run the ball with Marshall Faulk against a 3 man rush with 8 in coverage.