Chiefs Yahoo.com Draft Grades

**BigMeatballDave** · 11:12 AM

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Denver Broncos
Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal.
Grade: B
Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft.

Kansas City Chiefs
Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon.
Grade: B-
Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters.

Oakland Raiders
Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry .
Grade: B+
Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent.

San Diego Chargers
Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar.
Grade: B
Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven.

NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division.

**The Franchise** · 05-03-2011, 11:09 AM

It's nice to know that Houston or Bailey will never be great.

**Bowser** · 05-03-2011, 11:10 AM

They're throwing the Seymour pickup in with this draft class. The Raiders drafted like a bunch of OCD riddled kids, again, taking anyone that ran under a 4.4, and the offspring of a former Raider great. D-, at best.

**notorious** · 05-03-2011, 11:12 AM

I don't understand how SD got a better grade then the Chiefs.

Time will tell I guess.

MIAdragon · 05-03-2011, 11:12 AM

The San Diego and Oakland grades are

**The Franchise** · 05-03-2011, 11:14 AM

The Von Miller pick by the Broncos is a great pick..........if they still ran the 3-4. I swear that the people that grade these drafts aren't taking that into consideration. They're going to basically strip him of his strengths for the first two downs.

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The Von Miller pick by the Broncos is a great pick..........if they still ran the 3-4. I swear that the people that grade these drafts aren't taking that into consideration. They're going to basically strip him of his strengths for the first two downs.

When you feel that a player is the best pass rusher that you have evaluated in the past 15 years (which is exactly what Brian Xanders said) you take him. Teams are spreading people out more and more and you are in your nickle package a lot nowadays.

Denver can do so much with Von Miller and Dumervil. They are going to use multiple looks and at times they will have Miller, Dumervil, and Ayers all standing up and teams will have no idea where they are coming from. Remember Dennis Allen is a Greg Williams protege and believes in an extremely aggressive blitz heavy defense,Von Miller is a a perfect chess piece for that style of a defense. Denver is not going to run a traditional 4-3 defense like Herm.

milkman · 05-03-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

When you feel that a player is the best pass rusher that you have evaluated in the past 15 years (which is exactly what Brian Xanders said) you take him. Teams are spreading people out more and more and you are in your nickle package a lot nowadays.

Denver can do so much with Von Miller and Dumervil. They are going to use multiple looks and at times they will have Miller, Dumervil, and Ayers all standing up and teams will have no idea where they are coming from. Remember Dennis Allen is a Greg Williams protege and believes in an extremely aggressive blitz heavy defense,Von Miller is a a perfect chess piece for that style of a defense. Denver is not going to run a traditional 4-3 defense like Herm.

Blitz packages only work if you have an offense in passing situations, and since the Donkeys won't be able to stop anyone from running on them, they won't find themselves in those situations very often.

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Blitz packages only work if you have an offense in passing situations, and since the Donkeys won't be able to stop anyone from running on them, they won't find themselves in those situations very often.

We weren't very good at stopping the run in 2009 either and Dumervil wound up leading the league in sacks.

**The Franchise** · 05-03-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

We weren't very good at stopping the run in 2009 either and Dumervil wound up leading the league in sacks.

In the 3-4........HUGE difference.

**Bowser** · 05-03-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

We weren't very good at stopping the run in 2009 either and Dumervil wound up leading the league in sacks.

Don't worry, we'll forget all about how Dumervil was on OLB in a 3-4 that year.

keg in kc · 05-03-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

We weren't very good at stopping the run in 2009 either and Dumervil wound up leading the league in sacks.

I wouldn't call that a very good argument for drafting Miller.

rad · 05-03-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The Von Miller pick by the Broncos is a great pick..........if they still ran the 3-4. I swear that the people that grade these drafts aren't taking that into consideration. They're going to basically strip him of his strengths for the first two downs.

Rosey from Rotoworld did the AFC draft grades, and seems to know his shit:

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...c-draft-grades

vailpass · 05-03-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

Rosey from Rotoworld did the AFC draft grades, and seems to know his shit:

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...c-draft-grades

**RealSNR** · 05-03-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

You'll agree it makes no sense to make the claim that the Chiefs got tremendous value out of guys like Justin Houston, Allen Bailey, Ricky Stanzi, and Jerrell Powe while also fulfilling needs at WR and C with great players like Baldwin and Hudson, but then give them a medicore grade like B-, yeah?

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BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	Yahoo.com Draft Grades http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu..._grades_050111 Bite me, if repost Denver Broncos Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal. Grade: B Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft. Kansas City Chiefs Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon. Grade: B- Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters. Oakland Raiders Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry . Grade: B+ Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent. San Diego Chargers Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar. Grade: B Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven. NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division. Last edited by BigMeatballDave; 05-03-2011 at 11:12 AM..
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3105047	The Von Miller pick by the Broncos is a great pick..........if they still ran the 3-4. I swear that the people that grade these drafts aren't taking that into consideration. They're going to basically strip him of his strengths for the first two downs.
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