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Old 01-18-2013, 04:48 PM   #1
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So why wouldn't you just take him at #1? I still can't believe there's a single player in this draft who is appreciably better than Geno Smith.
Because you would be passing up other players that could have a big impact on the team as well. The A&M tackle would look great on our line at one and then if could get Smith later you would have two excellent prospects. You will not get a talent like Luke J at pick 34 but you could find a QB nearly as good as Smith in many people's opinion.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:00 PM   #2
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Because you would be passing up other players that could have a big impact on the team as well. The A&M tackle would look great on our line at one and then if could get Smith later you would have two excellent prospects. You will not get a talent like Luke J at pick 34 but you could find a QB nearly as good as Smith in many people's opinion.

You think that an ot would have a bigger impact then a QB. You have got to be kidding me. Branden Albert gave up one damn sack last year. Why the **** would we waste that pick on his replacement. Also no ****ing way you are getting a QB as good as Geno with out second pick, Zero.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:17 PM   #3
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So? Either was Eli Manning or Philip Rivers. Or Aaron Rodgers for that matter.

That shouldn't be the criteria, IMO. Even McNabb didn't start his rookie season.
Three legit first-rounders. And we just had this exchange relative to Gabbert, who was also a legit first-rounder who also had no business starting year one, week one.

I'd be happy to try to take this kid off Jacksonville's hands for a fourth. He's a good bet for a reclamation project.

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Interesting. So potentially, he is a starting NFL QB, but it's unlikely he'll be ready come September to lead a team?
Potentially, sure. There's natural talent there, but I think he's incredibly raw. He sits all of year one.

And as you're well aware, the odds of "hitting" with a QB taken in the third or later aren't real great, but it doesn't mean that it cannot happen, obviously.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:19 PM   #4
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And as you're well aware, the odds of "hitting" with a QB taken in the third or later aren't real great, but it doesn't mean that it cannot happen, obviously.
I agree.

But it would be nice to have a long term, competent back up QB. You know, a guy that wouldn't shit himself and is actually capable of winning games.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:22 PM   #5
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I agree.

But it would be nice to have a long term, competent back up QB. You know, a guy that wouldn't shit himself and is actually capable of winning games.
Absolutely.

The QB position on this team is so terrible that we have to throw numbers at the situation. I would have absolutely no problem with doing all three of the following:

1. Acquiring a legit "vet" option (such as a Flynn, whom I believe we could have for nominal cost if we're willing to take on the contract).
2. Drafting a QB whom we believe has franchise potential in the first, ideally. Definitely no later than the top of round two.
3. Throwing a late-round pick at a QB.

At the very least, we must accomplish two of the three above options.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:07 PM   #6
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Absolutely.

The QB position on this team is so terrible that we have to throw numbers at the situation. I would have absolutely no problem with doing all three of the following:

1. Acquiring a legit "vet" option (such as a Flynn, whom I believe we could have for nominal cost if we're willing to take on the contract).
2. Drafting a QB whom we believe has franchise potential in the first, ideally. Definitely no later than the top of round two.
3. Throwing a late-round pick at a QB.

At the very least, we must accomplish two of the three above options.
I'll take all three, i've advocated for your well said "throw numbers at it" proposition many times.

There is almost NOTHING that should be considered over the top in the search for a bona-fide player at that position.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:33 PM   #7
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I'll take all three, i've advocated for your well said "throw numbers at it" proposition many times.

There is almost NOTHING that should be considered over the top in the search for a bona-fide player at that position.
Yep. It's gross negligence on the part of the Chiefs at this point, and we simply have to swing the pendulum back in the other direction.

I would love to see three new options in camp next fall, with an open competition for the position.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:21 PM   #8
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Three legit first-rounders. And we just had this exchange relative to Gabbert, who was also a legit first-rounder who also had no business starting year one, week one.

I'd be happy to try to take this kid off Jacksonville's hands for a fourth. He's a good bet for a reclamation project.



Potentially, sure. There's natural talent there, but I think he's incredibly raw. He sits all of year one.

And as you're well aware, the odds of "hitting" with a QB taken in the third or later aren't real great, but it doesn't mean that it cannot happen, obviously.

For a later round prospect to add to Geno I like Dysert over Nassib even though Nassib will probably go earlier.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:36 PM   #9
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You think that an ot would have a bigger impact then a QB. You have got to be kidding me. Branden Albert gave up one damn sack last year. Why the **** would we waste that pick on his replacement. Also no ****ing way you are getting a QB as good as Geno with out second pick, Zero.
We don't even know of Albert is going to be here long term yet. The tackle is being talked about as a can't miss type of guy while Smith is already being talked about high risk. A strong Oline can help any offense.

I would bet there will be a qb taken in the second round that will have a better career than Smith. Someone like Landry Jones might be that type of guy.
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We don't even know of Albert is going to be here long term yet. The tackle is being talked about as a can't miss type of guy while Smith is already being talked about high risk. A strong Oline can help any offense.

I would bet there will be a qb taken in the second round that will have a better career than Smith. Someone like Landry Jones might be that type of guy.
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