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chiefsfan987 · 06-10-2013, 09:04 PM

Royals back in second place. Indians lost.

duncan_idaho · 06-10-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Holland doesn't have the nasty that Soria had. Doesn't mean he isn't or won't be good. Just not the same.

I think Holland's raw stuff is actually better.

He throws harder, and his slider is more of a wipeout pitch than Soria's hook was (because Holland is a bit more consistent with it and it is more effective against LH hitters). The splitter is also unfair when paired with the mid-90s heat and the slider. All three pitches come out with the same arm speed and are tough to distinguish from one another.

Mr_Tomahawk · 06-10-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

Royals back in second place. Indians lost.

Gawd the central sucks.

Bambi · 06-10-2013, 09:05 PM

Good game here between Rays and Sox.

tk13 · 06-10-2013, 09:06 PM

Let's put it this way. Coming into tonight there were only 4 pitchers in baseball who had pitched at least 20 IP and had a higher K/9 rate than Holland. Aroldis Chapman, Andrew Miller, Jason Grilli and Shawn Kelley. Grilli is the only one of those guys with a lower ERA than Holland... and Grilli leads the league in saves and will probably make the All-Star team.

Al Bundy · 06-10-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

Good game here between Rays and Sox.

Yeah... they had a benches clearing pillow fight earlier. Some serious bad blood.

Prison Bitch · 06-10-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

well.... in that at bat had they sent him up there without a bat he would have walked...

Touché! This is true

**LoneWolf** · 06-10-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Let's put it this way. Coming into tonight there were only 4 pitchers in baseball who had pitched at least 20 IP and had a higher K/9 rate than Holland. Aroldis Chapman, Andrew Miller, Jason Grilli and Shawn Kelley. Grilli is the only one of those guys with a lower ERA than Holland... and Grilli leads the league in saves and will probably make the All-Star team.

What about the closer from the Orioles? I hear he is awesome.

**Shogun** · 06-10-2013, 09:14 PM

jimmy johns somethin or other they call him

Ceej · 06-10-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun

jimmy johns somethin or other they call him

How fast is he? Super fast?

Prison Bitch · 06-10-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Holland has nasty stuff. I don't know why fans underestimate him. He struck out over 90 guys last year. I don't think Soria ever did that. He has 35 K in 23 IP this year... if he gets enough chances he might make a run at 100.

Soria struck out plenty of guys but more so he didn't allow base runners, Holland has allowed 20% more base runners

**Shogun** · 06-10-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

How fast is he? Super fast?

faster than a jimmy johns sandwich being delivered

Hootie · 06-10-2013, 09:19 PM

I was a big Soria fan...still think he should have been a starter. He did break down quick.

I just prefer closers like Holland. I think he has the potential to turn in Kimbrel-esque years.

Ceej · 06-10-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun

faster than a jimmy johns sandwich being delivered

That's fast. Real fast.

Prison Bitch · 06-10-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

I was a big Soria fan...still think he should have been a starter. He did break down quick.

I just prefer closers like Holland. I think he has the potential to turn in Kimbrel-esque years.

Moore said Sorias arm would never hold up as a starter. They used him perfectly although they should've traded him earlier

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