NFL Draft La’El Collins - Page 3

Iconic · 12:15 AM

Do you take a shot at him?
It's one thing to say you will sit out an entire year but to actually do it? I don't think he will and I DEFINITELY don't think he's guilty. Why plan for your future the way he has if you already know you're going to prison?

I think we need to pick him up before the sixth round with our comp pick. I mean it's not like it will hurt us. Worst case is he ends up being guilty and we lose out on a 5th round scrub? Oh no!

Red Dawg · 05-02-2015, 07:05 AM

I do it. But we won't. Pats will though. Or maybe they won't after the
Hernandez stuff.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-02-2015, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

I'm not sure how he could sue the police department. They're just doing their job and investigating a murder. They've already said he isn't a suspect. Just absolute shitty timing for him. It sucks, but it's not the Police Departments fault.

It's not shitty timing at all.

Had he just had the conversation with police right away instead of heading off to Chicago several days early, maybe this whole thing gets cleared up and he's still an early pick.

He brought this on himself, IMO. And now he's doubling down on dumb decisions by telling teams he won't sign.

The league just called his bluff last night.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-02-2015, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

This is the kind of fatty pick smart GM's should be plowing the field for.

He's already taken himself out of the remainder of this draft.

The most I'd do is offer the maximum Rookie FA contract, provided no one spends a late round pick on him.

I believe the NFL has limits to what teams can pay Rookie FAs. Anyone know how much that is?

Bewbies · 05-02-2015, 07:59 AM

I'm sure the owner of a team who had a player kill his girlfriend a couple years ago would sign off on drafting a guy who is under investigation for killing his girlfriend...

**buddha** · 05-02-2015, 08:01 AM

Why waste a pick? This kid is not acting like an innocent person.

Plenty of high quality starters are out there.

CaliforniaChief · 05-02-2015, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I'm sure the owner of a team who had a player kill his girlfriend a couple years ago would sign off on drafting a guy who is under investigation for killing his girlfriend...

To be fair, I don't think he's actually a suspect. But your point stands...the Chiefs wouldn't be the team to take that plunge and risk having him called La'BelCHER Collins.

**srvy** · 05-02-2015, 08:05 AM

The child died yesterday night. o now it will be a double murder.

King_Chief_Fan · 05-02-2015, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

This is the kind of fatty pick smart GM's should be plowing the field for.

I don't think NFL GM is in your future.

Fat Elvis · 05-02-2015, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Yeah if it turns out he is just a victim of circumstance then that would be terrible. There is something strange about the whole situation though. I can understand no longer having feelings for the ex-gf but my issue is that when he found out he was potentially the father of the child he shouldve been telling draft officials immediately that he needed to leave. Thats didnt happen until after the backlash on social media. The atty defended his actions saying he was cooperating with police and preparing for the draft When he shouldve been focused on his child. Something doesnt add up.....

Rae Carruth has an extra bed in his cell, I hear....

SeeingRed · 05-02-2015, 08:51 AM

was it his kid or no?

SeeingRed · 05-02-2015, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Why waste a pick? This kid is not acting like an innocent person.

Plenty of high quality starters are out there.

this.

kcbubb · 05-02-2015, 08:53 AM

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/02/lael-c...015-nfl-draft/

Then came this bombshell from the Collins camp: If drafted beyond round 3 (or not drafted at all), Collins would decline to sign, and would sit out the year and enter the 2016 draft. Ostensibly, the motivation would be to recoup the guaranteed cash he has lost by falling out of the first round.

For the first scenario, there is precedent. Bo Jackson, drafted in 1986 by Tampa Bay, played a season of pro baseball rather than join the Bucs, and because he refused to sign a contract the team lost his rights before the next draft. The Raiders chose Jackson in the seventh round of the ’87 draft. Today the cutoff is Week 10, and you get thrown back into the next year’s draft pool.

You can do that.

But what if you’re not drafted, and you want to sit out a season and gain entry to the next draft? There’s no precedent, and zero language in the 2011 collective bargaining agreement providing for such a scenario. Media reports subsequent to Collins’ declaration have yet to touch on this, instead treating his assumed admission to the 2016 draft as a ’15 UDFA as a given.

“It certainly is not automatic,” said one agent well-versed in the CBA. “There is obviously some language in the CBA that can lead to a rendering of an interpretation by the league on the issue. How valid an interpretation that is would have to be examined, and if a player thought it was not a correct interpretation he could bring a System Arbitration challenging it.”

Cmd'r&Chief · 05-02-2015, 08:56 AM

Use our Comp 6th, or 7th round pick on him and MAYBE you have a deal.

kcbubb · 05-02-2015, 08:57 AM

Could we draft him with a 7th rounder and let him sit out not sign until his name is cleared and then sign him to an extension so that he gets more reasonable money and doesn't choose to remain unsigned? Will the CBA allow that?

Chiefshrink · 05-02-2015, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

You ignore and move on

Yep. And in the mean time find out if the baby was his and it will tell you a ton

05-01-2015, 11:57 PM
Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $4160360	La’El Collins Do you take a shot at him? It's one thing to say you will sit out an entire year but to actually do it? I don't think he will and I DEFINITELY don't think he's guilty. Why plan for your future the way he has if you already know you're going to prison? I think we need to pick him up before the sixth round with our comp pick. I mean it's not like it will hurt us. Worst case is he ends up being guilty and we lose out on a 5th round scrub? Oh no! Last edited by Iconic; 05-02-2015 at 12:15 AM..
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05-02-2015, 07:59 AM	#34
Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	I'm sure the owner of a team who had a player kill his girlfriend a couple years ago would sign off on drafting a guy who is under investigation for killing his girlfriend...
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05-02-2015, 08:01 AM	#35
buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	Why waste a pick? This kid is not acting like an innocent person. Plenty of high quality starters are out there.
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05-02-2015, 08:05 AM	#37
srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $1691250	The child died yesterday night. o now it will be a double murder.
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05-02-2015, 08:51 AM	#40
SeeingRed Veteran Join Date: May 2013 Casino cash: $10011193	was it his kid or no? __________________ "Pressure Busts Pipes"
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05-02-2015, 08:53 AM	#42
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6106719	http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/02/lael-c...015-nfl-draft/ Then came this bombshell from the Collins camp: If drafted beyond round 3 (or not drafted at all), Collins would decline to sign, and would sit out the year and enter the 2016 draft. Ostensibly, the motivation would be to recoup the guaranteed cash he has lost by falling out of the first round. For the first scenario, there is precedent. Bo Jackson, drafted in 1986 by Tampa Bay, played a season of pro baseball rather than join the Bucs, and because he refused to sign a contract the team lost his rights before the next draft. The Raiders chose Jackson in the seventh round of the ’87 draft. Today the cutoff is Week 10, and you get thrown back into the next year’s draft pool. You can do that. But what if you’re not drafted, and you want to sit out a season and gain entry to the next draft? There’s no precedent, and zero language in the 2011 collective bargaining agreement providing for such a scenario. Media reports subsequent to Collins’ declaration have yet to touch on this, instead treating his assumed admission to the 2016 draft as a ’15 UDFA as a given. “It certainly is not automatic,” said one agent well-versed in the CBA. “There is obviously some language in the CBA that can lead to a rendering of an interpretation by the league on the issue. How valid an interpretation that is would have to be examined, and if a player thought it was not a correct interpretation he could bring a System Arbitration challenging it.”
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05-02-2015, 08:56 AM	#43
Cmd'r&Chief In Reid We Trust Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10016415	Use our Comp 6th, or 7th round pick on him and MAYBE you have a deal.
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05-02-2015, 08:57 AM	#44
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6106719	Could we draft him with a 7th rounder and let him sit out not sign until his name is cleared and then sign him to an extension so that he gets more reasonable money and doesn't choose to remain unsigned? Will the CBA allow that?
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