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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

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Old 01-21-2015, 06:58 AM   #151
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I said it in the other thread, I'll say it in this one. Belichick should be Pete Rosed. I understand our society in large part has diminished the value of honor and integrity, but that shouldn't make it less important to an organization that has placed an emphasis on those qualities for decades. Belichick has proven repeatedly he has no value on those 2 qualities and he has now tarnished them for the entire league. Justice should be swift, and lethal. Let one of the assistants coach them in the Super Bowl.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:17 AM   #152
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:29 AM   #153
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Have any of you thrown and caught a full ball vs. an underinflated ball?


There is a pretty big difference.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:43 AM   #154
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:44 AM   #155
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Have any of you thrown and caught a full ball vs. an underinflated ball?


There is a pretty big difference.
I can top 80 yards in the air when I pull out 2 lbs of air pressure.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:51 AM   #156
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Damn 2 lbs psi under minimum specs is quiet a bit. There isnt much volume in a football so I would think compared to a car tire it would be like 5 to 8 lbs under inflated. Why the ref that spots the ball before each snap wouldn't notice this? I know 2 lbs doesn't seem much but I thing it is. When I get home tomorrow sounds like a good experiment. Inflate my football to 14 lbs then deflate to 12 see if its noticeable.
The refs hands are on the ball during the game, so I am wondering the same thing. Investigation, isn't really done. They don't know who did it, why or if there''s any other factor that contributed.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:54 AM   #157
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The fact that the Patriots steam-rolled doesn't matter at all. I'm surprised so many of you bring that up.
What would have happen if the Colts won? I guess in that case it doesn't matter as well since "they lost anyway"...?
By that logic, if you get caught for cheating you should only be punished if you won by 1-6 points.

In most, if not all, sports organizations around the world if you get caught cheating you forefeet the game.
It was Brady's lowest passing game. He was intercepted too. They mainly ran the ball. Plus, who held the Colt's to 7 points? That had nothing to do with the ball.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:56 AM   #158
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I don't think whether they won or lost really matters. Or by how much.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:56 AM   #159
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What will the punishment be? We can't be certain this is the first time the Pats have done this so you have to wonder if they even deserve going to the SB at all.

I don't like the Colts. Quite frankly I ****ing despise them... but letting the Pats play in the SB over the Colts this year will be nothing short of the NFL perpetuating cheating.

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Old 01-21-2015, 07:57 AM   #160
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According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

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I don't see "cheating" in that headline or report. It says they found deflated balls true. But it's still on-going. Now, what needs to be known is who did it, intent or if any other factor.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:58 AM   #161
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I don't see "cheating" in that headline or report. It says they found deflated balls true. But it's still on-going. Now, what needs to be known is who did it, intent or if any other factor.
They're still trying to figure out who the fall guy will be.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:58 AM   #162
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They're still trying to figure out who the fall guy will be.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:00 AM   #163
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I wish they would. That would be extremely appropriate and justified for cheating once again. How many chances do theg get before something drastic happens.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:02 AM   #164
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It seems that NFL ball manipulation is sort of like baseball manipulation, which nobody cared about until they did.

Aaron Rodgers admitted that he attempted to overinflate the ball. Nobody cared.

The Vikings and Jaguars were caught warming the ball (also illegal). Nobody cared, adn the NFL said "hey, stop that".

Buccaneers winning quarterback Brad Johnson admitted that he paid $7,500 for ball boys to manipulate the ball.

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/1/21/78...wl-deflategate

Patriots MAY have deflated the balls (the balls were underinflated, but the how/why is not yet resolved), and everyone is demanding that heads roll.

The problem, of course, is that reality doesn't matter -- perception is all that matters now. The Patriots are no benefit of the doubt from anyone (Cheatriots! Spygate!) and are widely hated for having so much success for so long. Belichick having the personality and loveability of a turnip doesn't help of course.

The rulebook provides for the punishment here -- $25,000 or whatever else the Commish says. It's the same as for wearing the wrong color cleats. But hey, Cheatriots! And it's affecting the NFL's image right before the Super Bowl, and talking heads need to fill two weeks of time, so I do expect heads will roll -- either Patriots heads or ref heads.

And they may lose at least one fan for life, since this all seems quite absurd to me.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-pat...wn-deflategate
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And they may lose at least one fan for life, since this all seems quite absurd to me.
You can be a Chiefs fan then, since that's our tagline.
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