Other Sports Johnny Damon Hall of Famer??

Deberg_1990 · 11-03-2009, 07:15 AM

Discuss Planeteers....

http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/1582

All of which is just a long introduction to the question: is Johnny Damon a Hall of Famer?

He's sitting at 2,425 hits, so four more seasons and -- assuming the Yankees win one of the next three -- he'll have 3,000 hits along with (at least) two championship rings. Pretty good case, no?

He has scored more than 100 runs 10 times in his career. He will probably finish his career in the top 20 all-time, and perhaps even top 10 in runs scored.

It's a better career than you might think off hand, and in the end, his Hall candidacy probably depends more upon how closely voters draw their circle than anything.

For me, he falls just outside, as one of the really good players whose exclusion from the Hall makes the honor of being inducted even more special.

There are just too many holes in the argument. He's a top-of-the-order guy who strikes out more than he walks, is a career .288 hitter and never finished in the top 10 in on-base percentage (his career high was .382 in his last season with the Royals in 2000).

He is a corner outfielder with a legendarily bad arm who's led the league in something just three times -- runs (136) and steals (46) in 2000, and triples (11) in 2002. He's made just two All-Star teams, and never finished higher than 13th in MVP voting.

More than any of that, he's never been the best player at his position, or on his team. On Baseball Reference's similarity score, Lou Brock is the only Hall of Famer among the 10 listed with Damon (though Pete Rose is one of the others).

Anyway, the point here is not to bash a really good player the day after giving us a really great moment.

The point here is to solicit the thoughts of you fine readers while I prepare to jog off some of the cheesesteak from yesterday.

The Keltner List is a good tool to use in making judgments.

**BigRedChief** · 11-03-2009, 07:16 AM

nada a chance

**DeezNutz** · 11-03-2009, 07:21 AM

Roberto Hernandez might be, though.

BillSelfsTrophycase · 11-03-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Roberto Hernandez might be, though.

He's no Ricky Bottalico

**ChiTown** · 11-03-2009, 07:27 AM

Damon has been a helluva good player, and clutch at times, but HOF? I can't get there. Fortunately for JD, I don't have a vote.

**BigRedChief** · 11-03-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Damon has been a helluva good player, and clutch at times, but HOF? I can't get there. Fortunately for JD, I don't have a vote.

This is what a HOF'r looks like.

**DeezNutz** · 11-03-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

This is what a HOF'r looks like.

Damn. Apparently I missed his induction.

**Bane** · 11-03-2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Damn. Apparently I missed his induction.

Id think its gonna be a while......

**BigRedChief** · 11-03-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Damn. Apparently I missed his induction.

This is what a future HOF'r looks like.
http://www.albertpujolsclub.com/wp-c...er-272x300.jpg

feel better now....

**HemiEd** · 11-03-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Damon has been a helluva good player, and clutch at times, but HOF? I can't get there. Fortunately for JD, I don't have a vote.

x2, but doesn't 3,000 hits pretty much guarantee an induction?

Where would this team have gone, if they had kept Damon, Dye, Beltran and Ibanez?

CoMoChief · 11-03-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

x2, but doesn't 3,000 hits pretty much guarantee an induction?

Where would this team have gone, if they had kept Damon, Dye, Beltran and Ibanez?

With a possible rotation of Greinke, Lincecum, DelaRosa, and Meche in the playoffs.....this team would go very far. ALCS at least.

**HemiEd** · 11-03-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

With a possible rotation of Greinke, Lincecum, DelaRosa, and Meche in the playoffs.....this team would go very far. ALCS at least.

Yeah, baseball used to be fun back in the day when the Royals were contenders every year.

But I haven't watched a single inning of the playoffs or WS this year, just don't care. **** the Yankees!

RJ · 11-03-2009, 07:29 AM

Chicks dig the long ball. No HOF for Johnny.

**Bane** · 11-03-2009, 07:29 AM

Prob not but Im not sure making the HOF in the steroid era will be so glorious.

Smoke · 11-03-2009, 07:51 AM

If players like Jim Rice barely make it to the hall, then players like Johnny Damon shouldn't make it at all.

11-03-2009, 07:15 AM	Topic Starter
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Johnny Damon Hall of Famer?? Discuss Planeteers.... http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/1582 All of which is just a long introduction to the question: is Johnny Damon a Hall of Famer? He's sitting at 2,425 hits, so four more seasons and -- assuming the Yankees win one of the next three -- he'll have 3,000 hits along with (at least) two championship rings. Pretty good case, no? He has scored more than 100 runs 10 times in his career. He will probably finish his career in the top 20 all-time, and perhaps even top 10 in runs scored. It's a better career than you might think off hand, and in the end, his Hall candidacy probably depends more upon how closely voters draw their circle than anything. For me, he falls just outside, as one of the really good players whose exclusion from the Hall makes the honor of being inducted even more special. There are just too many holes in the argument. He's a top-of-the-order guy who strikes out more than he walks, is a career .288 hitter and never finished in the top 10 in on-base percentage (his career high was .382 in his last season with the Royals in 2000). He is a corner outfielder with a legendarily bad arm who's led the league in something just three times -- runs (136) and steals (46) in 2000, and triples (11) in 2002. He's made just two All-Star teams, and never finished higher than 13th in MVP voting. More than any of that, he's never been the best player at his position, or on his team. On Baseball Reference's similarity score, Lou Brock is the only Hall of Famer among the 10 listed with Damon (though Pete Rose is one of the others). Anyway, the point here is not to bash a really good player the day after giving us a really great moment. The point here is to solicit the thoughts of you fine readers while I prepare to jog off some of the cheesesteak from yesterday. The Keltner List is a good tool to use in making judgments.
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