Music Stone Temple Pilots fire lead singer

**Easy 6** · 03-07-2013, 02:54 PM

Speaking of GNR, did anyone catch the VH1 concert from london last saturday?

Gotta say, they sounded awesome... Axls voice hasnt been that good in ten years, it was GREAT to hear all of the stuff from the Illusion albums live.

Axl looks like he's kinda going through the motions more than i ever remember, he doesnt have that physical fire he used to, but still, he sounded very good.

Feel like punching myself in the junk for forgetting to record it... it made them seem relevant again.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-07-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Speaking of GNR, did anyone catch the VH1 concert from london last saturday?

Gotta say, they sounded awesome... Axls voice hasnt been that good in ten years, it was GREAT to hear all of the stuff from the Illusion albums live.

Axl looks like he's kinda going through the motions more than i ever remember, he doesnt have that physical fire he used to, but still, he sounded very good.

Feel like punching myself in the junk for forgetting to record it... it made them seem relevant again.

All of those "Live Concerts" go through an enormous amount of audio post-production, including tuning the vocals with with either Autotune or Melodyne.

That said, the new GNR band is comprised of some ridiculously talented players but to me, they come off as bland because they're so good. Slash and Duff and Izzy and Steven were "feel" players. The difference between Matt and Adler's drumming is shocking and Matt's songs don't "feel" anywhere near as "good" as Steven's. This was no more apparent than their Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction, where Guns and Roses sounded like Guns and Roses (minus Axl).

Deberg_1990 · 03-07-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All of those "Live Concerts" go through an enormous amount of audio post-production, including tuning the vocals with with either Autotune or Melodyne.

That said, the new GNR band is comprised of some ridiculously talented players but to me, they come off as bland because they're so good. Slash and Duff and Izzy and Steven were "feel" players. The difference between Matt and Adler's drumming is shocking and Matt's songs don't "feel" anywhere near as "good" as Steven's. This was no more apparent than their Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction, where Guns and Roses sounded like Guns and Roses (minus Axl).

Dane, do you think we will ever get an Axel/Slash reunion in our lifetime?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-07-2013, 03:25 PM

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Dane, do you think we will ever get an Axel/Slash reunion in our lifetime?

I don't think it'll ever happen. Both have too much money, so that won't be a draw and they really don't like each other, at all. Hate is the more appropriate word.

Slash is happy with his current band with Myles and if he ever gets bored with touring and putting out albums every year, he'll likely turn to film scoring.

rabblerouser · 03-07-2013, 05:13 PM

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I don't think it'll ever happen. Both have too much money, so that won't be a draw and they really don't like each other, at all. Hate is the more appropriate word.

Slash is happy with his current band with Myles and if he ever gets bored with touring and putting out albums every year, he'll likely turn to film scoring.

I don't think I could just let bygones be bygones if I were Slash at this point.

Axl...destroyed that band. I know that drugs and egos were out of hand, etc. but Axl was (supposedly) relatively sober, and could've kept that ship together if he had wanted to.

Instead, he wanted to turn the baddest boozy bluesy rock band this side of guys not named Stones or Crowes into Elton Queen Inch Nails.

A damn shame...

**Easy 6** · 03-07-2013, 05:31 PM

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I don't think I could just let bygones be bygones if I were Slash at this point.

Axl...destroyed that band. I know that drugs and egos were out of hand, etc. but Axl was (supposedly) relatively sober, and could've kept that ship together if he had wanted to.

Instead, he wanted to turn the baddest boozy bluesy rock band this side of guys not named Stones or Crowes into Elton Queen Inch Nails.

A damn shame...

man, you TOTALLY had me up until you compared them to the Black Crowes.

I always enjoyed them... but, those guys couldnt sniff GNR's coke and heroin soaked jock.

rabblerouser · 03-08-2013, 03:38 AM

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man, you TOTALLY had me up until you compared them to the Black Crowes.

I always enjoyed them... but, those guys couldnt sniff GNR's coke and heroin soaked jock.

Hey, they could've been my generation's Zeppelin...but could neve quit shooting themselves in the foot. Firing Marc in '97, firing Ed in '06 (and Marc quitting AGAIN)...they just could never keep it together.

As an aside to the GN'R/Crowes connection, rumor has it that Marc was rumored to be a candidate to replace Izzy, but chose the Crowes gig instead. Marc also plays uncredited on Somebody's Knockin' and did the bong intro to Train Tracks on JuJu Hounds.

The Sweet Pickle Salad sessions from that era are AMAZING.

**SAUTO** · 03-08-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think it'll ever happen. Both have too much money, so that won't be a draw and they really don't like each other, at all. Hate is the more appropriate word.

Slash is happy with his current band with Myles and if he ever gets bored with touring and putting out albums every year, he'll likely turn to film scoring.

I read slash's book and I fully agree with you here
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rabblerouser · 03-07-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All of those "Live Concerts" go through an enormous amount of audio post-production, including tuning the vocals with with either Autotune or Melodyne.

That said, the new GNR band is comprised of some ridiculously talented players but to me, they come off as bland because they're so good. Slash and Duff and Izzy and Steven were "feel" players. The difference between Matt and Adler's drumming is shocking and Matt's songs don't "feel" anywhere near as "good" as Steven's. This was no more apparent than their Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction, where Guns and Roses sounded like Guns and Roses (minus Axl).

yeah, Izzy said one of the biggest reasons he left was because he didn't like the way the band's music had changed.

His sobriety and Axl's erratic behavior were the other main contributing factors.

Poor Izzy; he's so scarred from LSD (lead singer dysfunction) that when VR was forming, it was him, Duff, Slash, and Matt, and Izzy was down...as long as they didn't get a ****ing lead singer.

Izzy just wanted to tour clubs with him and Duff singing...

maybe they could still get that together.

WAY more likely than the original Guns ever getting back together.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-07-2013, 05:39 PM

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yeah, Izzy said one of the biggest reasons he left was because he didn't like the way the band's music had changed.

His sobriety and Axl's erratic behavior were the other main contributing factors.

Poor Izzy; he's so scarred from LSD (lead singer dysfunction) that when VR was forming, it was him, Duff, Slash, and Matt, and Izzy was down...as long as they didn't get a ****ing lead singer.

Izzy just wanted to tour clubs with him and Duff singing...

maybe they could still get that together.

WAY more likely than the original Guns ever getting back together.

I knew a bunch of guys that auditioned for Velvet Revolver, from Mike Matejevic from Steelheart and the Mark Wahlberg movie, to Keith Nelson and Josh Todd (Keith actually has some writing credits on the first album) and many more.

Slash didn't like any of them because he wanted to move forward and sound modern. He didn't want to sound "80's" in any way. So they hired Weiland.

rabblerouser · 03-08-2013, 06:08 PM

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I knew a bunch of guys that auditioned for Velvet Revolver, from Mike Matejevic from Steelheart and the Mark Wahlberg movie, to Keith Nelson and Josh Todd (Keith actually has some writing credits on the first album) and many more.

Slash didn't like any of them because he wanted to move forward and sound modern. He didn't want to sound "80's" in any way. So they hired Weiland.

Just saw this and I literally laughed out loud.

Oh, irony...

I love GN'R and I love STP.

VR was two great tastes that didn't go well together.

Like Audioslave. Love Rage, love Soundgarden.

Not so much together.

Chemistry is a mother****er.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-08-2013, 06:15 PM

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Just saw this and I literally laughed out loud.

Oh, irony...

I love GN'R and I love STP.

VR was two great tastes that didn't go well together.

I thought both VR records were crap, especially the second record. Slash hated the production on the first album and said that Josh Abraham didn't know how to record guitars (So then why did you hire him?). The songs were weak and boring and they literally wrong some songs to sound like older GNR and Stone Temple Pilots. Why bother?

I actually heard the demos with Josh and Keith and believe it or not, they were really cool. I liked them better than the records with Weiland. Sure, they were 80's sounding but IMO, it worked.

Brock · 03-08-2013, 07:16 PM

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I thought both VR records were crap, especially the second record. Slash hated the production on the first album and said that Josh Abraham didn't know how to record guitars (So then why did you hire him?). The songs were weak and boring and they literally wrong some songs to sound like older GNR and Stone Temple Pilots. Why bother?

I actually heard the demos with Josh and Keith and believe it or not, they were really cool. I liked them better than the records with Weiland. Sure, they were 80's sounding but IMO, it worked.

Imo, if they couldn't get izzy, they shoulda stayed home.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-08-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Like Audioslave. Love Rage, love Soundgarden.

Not so much together.

Chemistry is a mother****er.

I loved the first Audioslave record and still do. Some of the later songs on the record are just outright dark and angry. I dig 'em.

I didn't care much for the second record overall and thought the third was better, but it didn't really work, either. The band would jam their stuff, while Chris was a in a corner writing something on acoustic guitar. You can hear on the second and third record that they're slowing becoming the Chris Cornell solo band, which is why they ultimately broke up.

**SAUTO** · 03-08-2013, 07:32 PM

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I loved the first Audioslave record and still do. Some of the later songs on the record are just outright dark and angry. I dig 'em.

I didn't care much for the second record overall and thought the third was better, but it didn't really work, either. The band would jam their stuff, while Chris was a in a corner writing something on acoustic guitar. You can hear on the second and third record that they're slowing becoming the Chris Cornell solo band, which is why they ultimately broke up.

I love the first album still to this day too. And hate the last two
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3377775	Speaking of GNR, did anyone catch the VH1 concert from london last saturday? Gotta say, they sounded awesome... Axls voice hasnt been that good in ten years, it was GREAT to hear all of the stuff from the Illusion albums live. Axl looks like he's kinda going through the motions more than i ever remember, he doesnt have that physical fire he used to, but still, he sounded very good. Feel like punching myself in the junk for forgetting to record it... it made them seem relevant again.
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