Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 267

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2013, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Gotta upgrade the RF & 2nd Base positions!

Nobody is dealing this early.

Great Expectations · 05-13-2013, 07:24 AM

Johnson is much better at 2nd than Frenchy is in right.

Prison Bitch · 05-13-2013, 07:35 AM

Meet Billy Butler, the $8million zero-WAR player:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0

Strongside · 05-13-2013, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Meet Billy Butler, the $8million zero-WAR player:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0

Dear God, Frenchy is terrible.

Ebolapox · 05-13-2013, 07:53 AM

so, they also have james shields as 0 war (replacement level). yeah, bullship

Prison Bitch · 05-13-2013, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

so, they also have james shields as 0 war (replacement level). yeah, bullship

But he is -as a hitter. You were looking at the offensive WAR, here is the pitching WAR where he's already up to +1.6:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ter=&players=0

CaliforniaChief · 05-13-2013, 07:58 AM

This lineup is KILLING a great pitching staff. If we're truly "all-in", then GMDM doesn't wait until the trade deadline to upgrade this lineup. Move now, or at least in the next couple of weeks.

Howie Kendrick?
David DeJesus?
Andre Ethier?

I don't know...but we've gotta do something.

Chiefshrink · 05-13-2013, 08:00 AM

Yost needs to be gone by the 1st week of June if we are to have a chance if this slide continues if not sooner. All Star break will be too late. Don't think for a moment that Yost is not somewhat responsible for these young guys not reaching their potential in the batter's box either. Yost is about as motivating as Ferris Buehler's Civic Teacher. Buehler ? Buehler ? Buehler ? This last week exposed Yost big time and his lack of saavy managing of the game all the way around and needs to be gone IMO.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 05-13-2013, 08:05 AM

What do you mean? Most intelligent managers sac bunt in the first inning against the yankees.

Strongside · 05-13-2013, 08:09 AM

I'm just sick of the black hole that is the bottom of our lineup. They kill rallys...and dreams.

BlackHelicopters · 05-13-2013, 08:11 AM

We must be cursed. Our pitching is now decent, and we can't hit our way out of a wet paper bag.

**Nzoner** · 05-13-2013, 08:12 AM

Indians have a doubleheader with the Yanks today,if they can win 1 or even both I can see this place really start a meltdown.

**Nzoner** · 05-13-2013, 08:14 AM

And just I submit my above post I get an e-mail from Royals ticketing for 50% off.

Archie F. Swin · 05-13-2013, 08:20 AM

Maybe this Anaheim series will give us the reboot we need.

KCUnited · 05-13-2013, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner

And just I submit my above post I get an e-mail from Royals ticketing for 50% off.

Losing 6-7 before a week of games that start after 9pm. Fairly smart marketing to keep people interested.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1770308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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