Off Season Lets Talk Guns

[HonestChieffan]

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

Part 2: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293623

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Oh? Do tell.

It's questionable at best with some external testing....

[unlurking]

OK, maybe it's just me and I'm totally wrong here, but the comparison to 2 .22LR just seems off. If you look at the gel block, you can see the two different initial patterns at the front "almost" compare to the 9mm. It still looks much smaller in scope to me. Then there's the, do I carry two 22LR or load every other round question. Should have fired 2 of the 9mm for an equal comparison.

Personally, I think he should have just stuck to the "no damage at the end of penetration" reasoning. The 22LR comparison just seemed as gimmicky as the RIP ammo videos.

[LiveSteam]

I shoot the Aguila 62 grain bullet on top of the 22short case. I shoot them at or at almost point blank rang. At possums,coons,snakes ect. They tumble much past 10 yards,they dnt feed for shit either. I use them in a R-single six,that way feeding will not be an issue.
I will say this about that round. You wouldn't want to be on the business end of it.

[kepp]

Some .22lr in stock...hurry! I got it for under $0.10 with shipping.

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?i...ir=18|831|1034

[kepp]

Also, this seems like a good deal of an entry level AR - http://www.slickguns.com/product/com...complete-upper

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

I shoot the Aguila 62 grain bullet on top of the 22short case. I shoot them at or at almost point blank rang. At possums,coons,snakes ect. They tumble much past 10 yards,they dnt feed for shit either. I use them in a R-single six,that way feeding will not be an issue.
I will say this about that round. You wouldn't want to be on the business end of it.

Oh I have no doubt the round wouldn't be pleasant....but I suspect that it wil underperform a 410 shotshell for effectiveness. Now you can carry more rounds with this, but for defensive use I'm not sure it's a winner.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

It's questionable at best with some external testing....

Thanks.
I'm not sure comparing a 9mm to two .22LR's is a reasonable comparison but agree that these fragmenting bullets don't look like they're transferring much energy into the ballistics gel block.

[Munson]

.22LR

CCI Blazer 500-round brick

*** Make 2 separate orders of 1 brick each to get around the 1 brick limit.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...rc=AFF#3866482

[notorious]

Originally Posted by kepp

Also, this seems like a good deal of an entry level AR - http://www.slickguns.com/product/com...complete-upper

Awesome.

I was about to post the links for the upper and complete lower from Palmetto.

Nice Work.

[Fairplay]

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by kepp

Have you guys heard about this?

U.S. Postal Service Announces Giant Ammo Purchase
http://www.infowars.com/u-s-postal-s...ammo-purchase/

Why on earth would they need this?

It works out to around like 130 glocks and 35 shotguns, give or take? So this is for all 50 states so like, a little over 2 pistols per state (CA probably gets 5)?

So, not a huge purchase of guns and ammo. Still, it's kind of strange that all these non-military/law enforcement federal agencies are stocking up on guns and ammo. I think the cumulative effect of all these federal agencies buying all these small arms and ammo is somewhat troubling. It may be a back door way to drive up the price of guns and ammo and delay the general population from having access to this stuff. Hard to know for sure. We'd need to see what these type of purchases were like 10, 15, 20, 25 years ago to see if this is way off or just pretty typical.

[notorious]

I don't understand why new ammo companies aren't popping up to produce and make millions.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by notorious

I don't understand why new ammo companies aren't popping up to produce and make millions.

what are you proposing? I think there are about 10 posters here in this thread that can get together and start a small arms ammo company and make a boat load of $.

What will it take:

1. a manufacturing facility
2. capital (money, a big business loan unless someone already had $)
3. equipment (like, the stuff that makes ammo)
4. technical know how (people who like, know how to make ammo)
5. distribution network (hey, how about a website)
6. money, time, effort, all that hard work stuff

what else? LET'S DO THIS!

[notorious]

I am worried about the government red-tape. Dealing with "explosives" and such.

This is primarily why I don't have a Class-III. I don't want to give them the power.

Here is some interesting reading on the subject:

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i.../t-343879.html

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by notorious

I don't understand why new ammo companies aren't popping up to produce and make millions.

I've been thinking about this too.

A few years ago countless small gun makers started popping up all over the place. If you count up the increase in small AR companies alone it adds up to a substantial amount of sales. If more guns are being sold, I have no idea if long term sales have spiked, it stands to reason more bullets are being consumed.

Most of mine sit around and collect dust, but I know guys who shoot enough ammo a month to make a car payment. There could easily be a spot in the market for another maker but the investment needed might be a lot more than most realize.