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Old 11-17-2012, 01:41 AM   #1
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I for one hadn't realized until just this moment that an apple was healthier for you than a Twinkie. My whole world is turned upside down.
Next thing you know you'll only find women who are 5'11" and weigh 95 pounds attractive.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:40 AM   #2
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Next thing you know you'll only find women who are 5'11" and weigh 95 pounds attractive.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:40 AM   #3
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I just started reading this thread and saw this and decided to comment on this.

I worked for IBC-Wonder-Hostess for 3 1/2 years.

Dolly Madison management manage that company to extinction, and went they went out business, thsy sold off some of their operation and product labels to IBC.

IBC, in their infinite wisdom, decided to bring those same dumbasses that managed Dolly Madison into extinction into the business and let them run the bakery and distribution operations.

As a vacation relief driver, I was moved from depot to depot to fill in where needed.

I worked in several locations from LA to Bakersfield and every place in between.

The bakery overbaked so much product that each depot would have in the neighborhood of a hundred grand of product at the end of the week, every week, that never left the depot.

Dumbasses in charge are telling you that it's because of the workers and strikes, but the reality is the dumbasses in charge are responsible for the end of business.
I'm not doubting that management made dumb decisions. But that doesn't change the fact that 18500 people are out of work now because a few union ****holes decided it would be cool to kill the company.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:06 AM   #4
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I for one hadn't realized until just this moment that an apple was healthier for you than a Twinkie. My whole world is turned upside down.
I had a fried Twinkie at Ribfest last weekend. It was damn good. Worth the 10 lbs that I gained.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:26 PM   #5
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I had a fried Twinkie at Ribfest last weekend. It was damn good. Worth the 10 lbs that I gained.
A 10lb Twinkie?

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Old 11-17-2012, 04:28 PM   #6
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:26 PM   #7
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:47 AM   #8
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My Dad had a Wonder Bread/Hostess Twinkies route for 20 years. Noone should spend their life working that hard. Thats what I knew growing up. We gave out Twinkies on Halloween. We were the most popular house. Go figure.

I know it's fashionable to bash working people these days but, from what I read, its the leadership that ran it out of business, not the unions.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:57 AM   #9
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My Dad had a Wonder Bread/Hostess Twinkies route for 20 years. Noone should spend their life working that hard. Thats what I knew growing up. We gave out Twinkies on Halloween. We were the most popular house. Go figure.

I know it's fashionable to bash working people these days but, from what I read, its the leadership that ran it out of business, not the unions.
Everybody knows the management was not good and a lot of the reason the company was in trouble.

But that doesn't mean that union workers deserve more money than the company can afford?

That's the beauty of the freemarket system. Those workers could have tried to find another job. And if that's the best they could get, then they should take what they could get from DM.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:02 AM   #10
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Everybody knows the management was not good and a lot of the reason the company was in trouble.

But that doesn't mean that union workers deserve more money than the company can afford?

That's the beauty of the freemarket system. Those workers could have tried to find another job. And if that's the best they could get, then they should take what they could get from DM.
This is not DC and political conversation should take place there. I'm not going to respond to this post. Just letting you know that I'm not purposely ignoring your points.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:03 AM   #11
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This is not DC and political conversation should take place there. I'm not going to respond to this post. Just letting you know that I'm not purposely ignoring your points.
Fair enough.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:03 AM   #12
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We get it. You eat healthy. Do you think anyone doesn't understand that an apple is better for you?

Your sanctimonious patronizing bullshit is ****ing tired.
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I for one hadn't realized until just this moment that an apple was healthier for you than a Twinkie. My whole world is turned upside down.
I didn't say it was healthier, though it obviously is. I said it's better. It tastes better.
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Anyone exclusively blaming the unions and ignoring 10 years of piss poor management at the top is beyond help.

The main reason Hostess failed was a decade of shitty management. Period. The strike is a convenient scapegoat.

Poorly managed businesses SHOULD fail. That's how our economy is supposed to work.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:24 PM   #14
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Anyone exclusively blaming the unions and ignoring 10 years of piss poor management at the top is beyond help.

The main reason Hostess failed was a decade of shitty management. Period. The strike is a convenient scapegoat.

Poorly managed businesses SHOULD fail. That's how our economy is supposed to work.
I mistakenly blamed the union and the workers.

I didn't realize they had so many issues.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:26 PM   #15
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... Poorly managed businesses SHOULD fail. That's how our economy is supposed to work.
Okay, but do they have to take the Twinkie cakes with them?

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