Snyder leaving?

ChiefsFanatic · 03-20-2001, 07:14 AM

I just heard on ESPN that Quin Snyder will interview with South Carolina. He and the A.D. went to Duke. Would he really leave?

That would suck for MU.

MrBlond · 03-20-2001, 08:23 AM

I am madly searching for confirmation. Anyone have a link?

spe725 · 03-20-2001, 10:18 AM

I don't know what type of confirmation you're looking for, but Andy Katz daily column on espn.com had this (I think it is where the ESPNews story originated from):

South Carolina targeting Missouri's Snyder
Monday, March 19:
Sources have told ESPN.com that South Carolina has made Missouri coach Quin Snyder its top target. According to the sources, Snyder will listen to South Carolina but is torn as to what to do. Snyder's wife is from nearby Charlotte, N.C., and South Carolina athletic director Mike McGee, like Snyder, is a Duke alumnus. McGee is apparently applying tremendous pressure on Duke to get Snyder to consider the Gamecocks. South Carolina coach Eddie Fogler resigned last week after the school refused to give him an extension beyond the remaining three years on his contract. Snyder is happy at Missouri and has repeated that this season. The Tigers reached the NCAA Tournament's second round and have the core of their team returning, including leading scorers Kareem Rush and Clarence Gilbert. But the deciding factor could be Snyder's commitment to his players and to the fact Missouri is a better basketball job than South Carolina.

MrBlond · 03-20-2001, 11:23 AM

spe,

Thank you. I know it is not going to happen but after all the years of hearing Roy to NC rumors from my MU friends I will love to scare them with this!!

Spott · 03-20-2001, 11:49 AM

I doubt Snyder would leave Mizzou to go to a school like S.C. that doesn't have much of a basketball tradition.

chiefsfan · 03-20-2001, 12:06 PM

He wouldn't leave for a school without any basketball tradition? I hate to break it to you, but Missouri doesn't have much tradition of it's own with 0 titles and 0 final fours, EVER. You Missouri fans are a f***ing joke, watch as I back up my argument with facts while MU fans come back with totally assinine opinions.

You guys can save these because I've heard them all before:

"Ya so what if KU has more tradition, Missouri will be a national powerhouse next year"

"With Kareem Rush coming back MU will be in the Final Four next year"

"Missouri will dominate the Big 12 next year with their top 10 recruiting class"

Sorry MU fans, just because you say it doesn't mean it's going to come true, so keep dreaming.

Pitt Gorilla · 03-20-2001, 01:41 PM

As a relatively new "Missouri" fan, I take exception to this rather idiotic blanket statement. It's true that there are a lot of ignorant Missouri fans that spout off at the even larger horde of ignorant KU fans. However, I believe that these fans, like yourself, represent the minority. Most Missouri and KU fans are well educated people with at least four year degrees. I have a lot of good, close friends working on their graduate degrees at both MU and KU. Actually, when I was being recruited to attend both to work on a Phd., the MU folk produced statistics showing Columbia as having one of the largest percentages of four year degree dwellers per capita. Why do I point these items out? First of all, MU fans are indeed not a joke, both literally and statistically. Also, most KU fans have a little more sense than to imply that they are. Finally, anyone considering an opinion as "asinine" should try to back up THAT argument with facts. Or, is that just another "asinine" opinion?

BTW, I posted before the Duke game that I didn't know if I really wanted MU to win because of the Quinn leaving factor. I had no idea that losing could produce the same result!?!?!

[Edited by Pitt Gorilla on 03-20-2001 at 01:55 PM]

03-20-2001, 01:48 PM

Chiefsfan, do you consider our Chiefs to have a strong tradition? I do, and if you do, you're basing that on regular season success, because it certainly hasn't been built in the post-season.

Along that same line of thinking, Mizzou basketball has had great success and has built a fine tradition. Maybe it isn't as strong as KU's, but it is there. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I'm sure Mizzou is second only to KU in regular season conf. titles over the last 20-25 years, and post-season conf. titles, too. Mizzou may even be ahead on that one, we used to own the Big 8 tourney. I can't recall South Carolina ever winning an SEC championship of any sort, certainly not several.

And as far as KU's tradition goes, that's built mostly around the inventors/legends of the game, stuff from 40-50 yrs ago. There is nothing in the modern era tourney history that sets KU apart from several other schools that have one title to their name. That's not a shot, that's just the way it is, IMO....

Spott · 03-20-2001, 02:22 PM

18 NCAA appearances in the last 29 years is success. Whether you want to believe it or not. How many times has KC been to the playoffs in the last 29 years? 8... No where in this topic is anyone saying that MU is a final four team and that we're going to dominate the Big 12 next year. The fact that you're so incensed at the idea of Snyder staying just proves that you think that some of those statements in your post just might be true, Chiefsfan.

ChiefsFanatic · 03-20-2001, 02:26 PM

cjderby, you said:

"And as far as KU's tradition goes, that's built mostly around the inventors/legends of the game, stuff from 40-50 yrs ago. There is nothing in the modern era tourney history that sets KU apart from several other schools that have one title to their name. That's not a shot, that's just the way it is, IMO...."

Dumba$$. KU has been to 10 Final Fours, and won 2 National Championship. Those FACTS are not based on stuff from 40-50 years ago. Most recently KU has been to the Final Four in 1986, 1988, 1991 and 1993. Those trips produced one of the championships, and are OBVIOUSLY not from 40-50 years ago.

**ExtremeChief** · 03-20-2001, 02:39 PM

Let me start by saying I am a MU fan. (Although I don't know if I am a fu***** MU fan). The main problem with this whole arguement is the definition of "tradition". IMHO both teams have strong basketball traditions. While MU doesn't have the final fours or national championships that KU does, I do think that they are known for having "strong" basketball teams year in and year out. They also have the tradition of not being able to win the "big one". I think Quin Snyder is a step in the right direction to achieve this goal. Whether they do it next year, or ten years from now I could not say, but I certainly do think they will be in the mix next year. Hopefully he stays. KU looked very impressive last weekend, and Roy sure seems to know how to get the most out of his players. I'm glad to see you broke the "tradition" of losing in the second round.

continuing the MU/KU rivalry "tradition"

Spott · 03-20-2001, 02:42 PM

South Carolina has 7 NCAA appearances ever, the last was in 1998. Their overall record is 4-8. 2 of their wins and 1 of their losses came in consolation games between 71-73. They have never advanced past the second round of the NCAA tournament.

MrBlond · 03-20-2001, 02:45 PM

Who cares as long as KU keeps beating mu in football?

MrBlond · 03-20-2001, 02:49 PM

mu's storied basketball tradition is closer to SCUs than it is to KUs.

PS. anything good on TV this weekend?...Oh year, the JAYHAWKS!!!

chiefsfan · 03-20-2001, 02:51 PM

KU won it's last title in 1988, and played in the championship game in 91, that's not quite 40-50 years. Also since 1990 KU has more wins than any other program. I know a lot of the stuff I said wasn't posted in this thread, but everytime there's an argument over ku and missouri it ends up the same. KU fans talk about how good KU is now and has been in the past while Missouri fans talk about how they "will be" greatness, someday, someplace in the near future. It's probably true that Missouri does have more tradition than South Carolina, but it's not by alot like the guy who posted was trying to make it sound.

I don't know what the Chiefs have to do with this argument either, but at least they've won a championship in their sport which is more than Missouri can say.

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03-20-2001, 10:18 AM	#3
spe725 PC load letter? Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Initech Casino cash: $10004900	I don't know what type of confirmation you're looking for, but Andy Katz daily column on espn.com had this (I think it is where the ESPNews story originated from): South Carolina targeting Missouri's Snyder Monday, March 19: Sources have told ESPN.com that South Carolina has made Missouri coach Quin Snyder its top target. According to the sources, Snyder will listen to South Carolina but is torn as to what to do. Snyder's wife is from nearby Charlotte, N.C., and South Carolina athletic director Mike McGee, like Snyder, is a Duke alumnus. McGee is apparently applying tremendous pressure on Duke to get Snyder to consider the Gamecocks. South Carolina coach Eddie Fogler resigned last week after the school refused to give him an extension beyond the remaining three years on his contract. Snyder is happy at Missouri and has repeated that this season. The Tigers reached the NCAA Tournament's second round and have the core of their team returning, including leading scorers Kareem Rush and Clarence Gilbert. But the deciding factor could be Snyder's commitment to his players and to the fact Missouri is a better basketball job than South Carolina.
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03-20-2001, 11:23 AM	#4
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03-20-2001, 11:49 AM	#5
Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $3062400	I doubt Snyder would leave Mizzou to go to a school like S.C. that doesn't have much of a basketball tradition.
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03-20-2001, 12:06 PM	#6
chiefsfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	He wouldn't leave for a school without any basketball tradition? I hate to break it to you, but Missouri doesn't have much tradition of it's own with 0 titles and 0 final fours, EVER. You Missouri fans are a f***ing joke, watch as I back up my argument with facts while MU fans come back with totally assinine opinions. You guys can save these because I've heard them all before: "Ya so what if KU has more tradition, Missouri will be a national powerhouse next year" "With Kareem Rush coming back MU will be in the Final Four next year" "Missouri will dominate the Big 12 next year with their top 10 recruiting class" Sorry MU fans, just because you say it doesn't mean it's going to come true, so keep dreaming.
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03-20-2001, 07:14 AM
ChiefsFanatic DeadPunisher Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Blue Springs, MO. 64014 Casino cash: $3229205	I just heard on ESPN that Quin Snyder will interview with South Carolina. He and the A.D. went to Duke. Would he really leave? That would suck for MU.
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Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $2930194	As a relatively new "Missouri" fan, I take exception to this rather idiotic blanket statement. It's true that there are a lot of ignorant Missouri fans that spout off at the even larger horde of ignorant KU fans. However, I believe that these fans, like yourself, represent the minority. Most Missouri and KU fans are well educated people with at least four year degrees. I have a lot of good, close friends working on their graduate degrees at both MU and KU. Actually, when I was being recruited to attend both to work on a Phd., the MU folk produced statistics showing Columbia as having one of the largest percentages of four year degree dwellers per capita. Why do I point these items out? First of all, MU fans are indeed not a joke, both literally and statistically. Also, most KU fans have a little more sense than to imply that they are. Finally, anyone considering an opinion as "asinine" should try to back up THAT argument with facts. Or, is that just another "asinine" opinion? BTW, I posted before the Duke game that I didn't know if I really wanted MU to win because of the Quinn leaving factor. I had no idea that losing could produce the same result!?!?! [Edited by Pitt Gorilla on 03-20-2001 at 01:55 PM] __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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03-20-2001, 01:48 PM	#8
cjderby Guest Casino cash: $	Chiefsfan, do you consider our Chiefs to have a strong tradition? I do, and if you do, you're basing that on regular season success, because it certainly hasn't been built in the post-season. Along that same line of thinking, Mizzou basketball has had great success and has built a fine tradition. Maybe it isn't as strong as KU's, but it is there. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I'm sure Mizzou is second only to KU in regular season conf. titles over the last 20-25 years, and post-season conf. titles, too. Mizzou may even be ahead on that one, we used to own the Big 8 tourney. I can't recall South Carolina ever winning an SEC championship of any sort, certainly not several. And as far as KU's tradition goes, that's built mostly around the inventors/legends of the game, stuff from 40-50 yrs ago. There is nothing in the modern era tourney history that sets KU apart from several other schools that have one title to their name. That's not a shot, that's just the way it is, IMO....
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03-20-2001, 02:22 PM	#9
Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $3062400	18 NCAA appearances in the last 29 years is success. Whether you want to believe it or not. How many times has KC been to the playoffs in the last 29 years? 8... No where in this topic is anyone saying that MU is a final four team and that we're going to dominate the Big 12 next year. The fact that you're so incensed at the idea of Snyder staying just proves that you think that some of those statements in your post just might be true, Chiefsfan.
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03-20-2001, 02:26 PM	#10
ChiefsFanatic DeadPunisher Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Blue Springs, MO. 64014 Casino cash: $3229205	cjderby, you said: "And as far as KU's tradition goes, that's built mostly around the inventors/legends of the game, stuff from 40-50 yrs ago. There is nothing in the modern era tourney history that sets KU apart from several other schools that have one title to their name. That's not a shot, that's just the way it is, IMO...." Dumba$$. KU has been to 10 Final Fours, and won 2 National Championship. Those FACTS are not based on stuff from 40-50 years ago. Most recently KU has been to the Final Four in 1986, 1988, 1991 and 1993. Those trips produced one of the championships, and are OBVIOUSLY not from 40-50 years ago.
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03-20-2001, 02:39 PM	#11
ExtremeChief Poser Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: BFE, MO Casino cash: $9991344	Let me start by saying I am a MU fan. (Although I don't know if I am a fu***** MU fan). The main problem with this whole arguement is the definition of "tradition". IMHO both teams have strong basketball traditions. While MU doesn't have the final fours or national championships that KU does, I do think that they are known for having "strong" basketball teams year in and year out. They also have the tradition of not being able to win the "big one". I think Quin Snyder is a step in the right direction to achieve this goal. Whether they do it next year, or ten years from now I could not say, but I certainly do think they will be in the mix next year. Hopefully he stays. KU looked very impressive last weekend, and Roy sure seems to know how to get the most out of his players. I'm glad to see you broke the "tradition" of losing in the second round. continuing the MU/KU rivalry "tradition" __________________ When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.
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Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $3062400	South Carolina has 7 NCAA appearances ever, the last was in 1998. Their overall record is 4-8. 2 of their wins and 1 of their losses came in consolation games between 71-73. They have never advanced past the second round of the NCAA tournament.
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03-20-2001, 02:49 PM	#14
MrBlond Lets Rock. Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: South of the border. Casino cash: $10004900	mu's storied basketball tradition is closer to SCUs than it is to KUs. PS. anything good on TV this weekend?...Oh year, the JAYHAWKS!!! __________________ "I can handle things, I'm smart, not like everybody says, like dumb, I'm smart, and I want respect!"
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03-20-2001, 02:51 PM	#15
chiefsfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	KU won it's last title in 1988, and played in the championship game in 91, that's not quite 40-50 years. Also since 1990 KU has more wins than any other program. I know a lot of the stuff I said wasn't posted in this thread, but everytime there's an argument over ku and missouri it ends up the same. KU fans talk about how good KU is now and has been in the past while Missouri fans talk about how they "will be" greatness, someday, someplace in the near future. It's probably true that Missouri does have more tradition than South Carolina, but it's not by alot like the guy who posted was trying to make it sound. I don't know what the Chiefs have to do with this argument either, but at least they've won a championship in their sport which is more than Missouri can say.
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