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Old 12-18-2011, 03:07 PM  
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Would the Chiefs have won this game with Haley?

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Old 12-18-2011, 03:38 PM   #46
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The vitriol you feel for Haley is exactly 180 degrees from the unbridled lust you felt for Gannon. It's amusing, but I think your hate for Haley is a just a bit over the top.
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:39 PM   #47
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:39 PM   #48
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I'm saying Palko was obviously the worst QB on the roster and did not "give us the best chance to win."
Or Haley didn't want to start Stanzi against the New York Jets in East Rutherford.
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:39 PM   #49
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You didn't answer my question.
Sorry. I like to ignore flawed questions that ignore the big picture.
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:40 PM   #50
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Also jd, do you think starting Stanzi in Chicago, for his first game, would have been the right thing to do?
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:40 PM   #51
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JD is just here to take the opposite postion, on everything
That's why I'm the one in the 93% majority...
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:40 PM   #52
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Sorry. I like to ignore flawed questions that ignore the big picture.
Ha...fair enough. Just wanted to make sure I understood your take. I'm not much for pointless arguments around here, so I'll just ignore you in the future.
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:41 PM   #53
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Also jd, do you think starting Stanzi in Chicago, for his first game, would have been the right thing to do?
What does it matter who the opponent is?
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:41 PM   #54
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The vitriol you feel for Haley is exactly 180 degrees from the unbridled lust you felt for Gannon. It's amusing, but I think your hate for Haley is a just a bit over the top.
He was a waste of three years. We knew pretty early on he was not going to be the type of coach this organization wanted and needed. He managed to delay the inevitable for a year but in the end all he amounted to was a big freakin waste of time. We were on the freakin job training for him.

Actually, if you go back to my posts at the time, I was opposed to hiring a rookie in the first place. That is on Pioli.
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What does it matter who the opponent is?
Because it makes no ****ing sense to start a 5th round rookie QB on the road for his start unless you abso ****ing lutely have to.
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:43 PM   #56
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He was a waste of three years. We knew pretty early on he was not going to be the type of coach this organization wanted and needed. He managed to delay the inevitable for a year but in the end all he amounted to was a big freakin waste of time.

Actually, if you go back to my posts at the time, I was opposed to hiring a rookie in the first place. That is on Pioli.
You wanted a retread?
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Because it makes no ****ing sense to start a 5th round rookie QB on the road for his start unless you abso ****ing lutely have to.
People don't gain experience by sitting on the bench.
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Old 12-18-2011, 03:47 PM   #59
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Haley and Company would still have difficulty getting plays into the QB, lack any coherent gameplan, and probably would not have decided on a quarterback until Sunday morning.
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No it didn't we ran Mcluster up the gut and TJ on the goal line.

The difference was Orton.


Are you ****ing insane or did you watch the game? McCluster only ran the ball 5 times (2 were reverses), caught 2 passes, and was only targeted twice. Anything between the tackles was TJ, Battle, and McClain for 125 yards.

Yes actually having a NFL QB for the first time this year made a big difference, but without Haley fiddle-****ing with the offensive game plan and calling plays whenever he decided he knew best this offense hummed like it hasn't in a long time. That was a combo of Orton and offensive coaches getting to put together a gameplan and executing it. First major change they made.............McCluster is not going to be a feature anything.

Another example of what coaching and scheming can do.....see Leonard Pope and all of those productive screens we haven't seen all year. Hell of job by Orton, but "The difference was Orton" was only part of it.
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