Trading for Nick Foles

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by milkman

I am not against the idea of trading for Foles.

Liked him in college.

As long as the decision to make that trade doen't deter this team from drafting Geno, I would be all for it.

Our QB situation would be the most credible it has been since the days of Lenny Dawson and Jackie Lee.

Thats fair enough, as long as a QB is taken number one overall, i'd be fine with just about any other move they wanted to make to fill in the blanks.

I'm not the college watcher many of you are, so i dont have to have Geno, just whoever it is Reid and Dorsey think fits their vision the best.

[Brock]

All right everybody, verse four.....EVERYBODY sing it!

[FranciscoD'Anconia]

I'm an Eagles fan. I can tell you that Nick Foles is a franchise QB of the future and I'm very confident that he is better than any QB in this draft. Don't be fooled by the 3rd round pick. He had a better QB rating as a rookie than Andrew Luck, and that's with playing in an offense where 9 out of 11 starters were out with injuries. If you were to trade your early 2nd round pick for him, or swap #1 overall with #4 overall for Foles, you would be getting an absolute steal and would be robbing the Philadelphia Eagles.

Btw, what was up with "No to trading for Michael Vick". Why would you have to trade for Michael Vick? He's going to be released.

[The Franchise]

I would give up a 6th or 7th for Foles as long as we still draft Geno #1

[In58men]

Nope

[Unsmooth-Moment]

I'd give a third. Still need a QB @1 tho

[FranciscoD'Anconia]

You guys are crazy talking about 6th or 7th for Foles. This guy has 1st round value and is better than any QB in this draft. There is no better QB available.

[Unsmooth-Moment]

Originally Posted by FranciscoD'Anconia

You guys are crazy talking about 6th or 7th for Foles. This guy has 1st round value and is better than any QB in this draft. There is no better QB available.

Agree to disagree. I see several QB's in this class beign graded as first round QB's. Foles was a 3rd rounder?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Can the guy study film?


He looks kinda...dumb.

[FranciscoD'Anconia]

Foles was a 3rd rounder because a) he was on a bad team which made him look worse and b) he ran a slow 40, with the "trend" being toward more mobile QBs. In Reid's system, the latter doesn't matter. That's why he slipped. He has EVERYTHING else. When he played, he exceeded expectations. All that having been said, he was a 3rd round pick in what may go down as the best QB draft of all time. IN this, relatively weak draft, that alone makes him early 2nd round value. The fact that he exceeded expectations makes him probably late first round value. Some mock drafts (Mel Kiper's for what its worth) have NO QBs with first round grades, and this is a weak draft all around.

Don't be fooled by the 3rd round pick thing. This guy can play. Don't be fooled by "we can pick a guy 1st overall". There aren't any good QBs in this draft.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by FranciscoD'Anconia

Foles was a 3rd rounder because a) he was on a bad team which made him look worse and b) he ran a slow 40, with the "trend" being toward more mobile QBs. In Reid's system, the latter doesn't matter. That's why he slipped. He has EVERYTHING else. When he played, he exceeded expectations. All that having been said, he was a 3rd round pick in what may go down as the best QB draft of all time. IN this, relatively weak draft, that alone makes him early 2nd round value. The fact that he exceeded expectations makes him probably late first round value. Some mock drafts (Mel Kiper's for what its worth) have NO QBs with first round grades, and this is a weak draft all around.

Don't be fooled by the 3rd round pick thing. This guy can play. Don't be fooled by "we can pick a guy 1st overall". There aren't any good QBs in this draft.

Mel Kiper is a ****ing moron.

And anyone suggesting that this QB class is bad is just parroting that moron.

This QB class is better than any in the last 5-6 years, except last year.

These morons just can't wrap their low IQs around the idea that last years class was a generational class.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by FranciscoD'Anconia

Foles was a 3rd rounder because a) he was on a bad team which made him look worse and b) he ran a slow 40, with the "trend" being toward more mobile QBs. In Reid's system, the latter doesn't matter. That's why he slipped. He has EVERYTHING else. When he played, he exceeded expectations. All that having been said, he was a 3rd round pick in what may go down as the best QB draft of all time. IN this, relatively weak draft, that alone makes him early 2nd round value. The fact that he exceeded expectations makes him probably late first round value. Some mock drafts (Mel Kiper's for what its worth) have NO QBs with first round grades, and this is a weak draft all around.

Don't be fooled by the 3rd round pick thing. This guy can play. Don't be fooled by "we can pick a guy 1st overall". There aren't any good QBs in this draft.

i imagine weasels eating a huge block of cheese when i read this post

[keg in kc]

Sure, why not. It's the same thing we always do. It's worked great for us in the past. In an Einstein definition of insanity kind of way.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Sure, why not. It's the same thing we always do. It's worked great for us in the past. In an Einstein definition of insanity kind of way.

Trent Green was a fantastic pickup.

And it wasn't his fault that we flopped. He had one of the worst defenses of all-time just like Geno.

[CaliforniaChief]

I'm with Pestilence on this. Nothing higher than a 6th. And I doubt Philly goes for that. A third? No way. Even with a potential compensatory pick for losing Carr, we're going to need those picks to build this roster.

I'm firmly in the draft Geno/Wilson at 1.1, and then in preference:
1. Sign a vet QB like Vick, Hasselbeck, Matt Moore.
2. Draft a guy like Dysert or Bray in middle rounds.
3. Keep Cassel as the backup.
4. Trade for someone else's backup.