Life Intruder calls 911, afraid homeowner may have gun - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 03-08-2011, 07:02 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/03/08/...ex.html?hpt=T2

This time it was the intruder who called 911.

A man who broke into a house in Portland, Oregon, called police -- afraid the homeowner may have a gun.

The suspect, Timothy James Chapek, was in the bathroom taking a shower when the homeowner returned to the house Monday night, Portland police said in a statement.

Accompanied by two German shepherds, the homeowner asked Chapek what he was doing in the house.

Chapek locked himself in the bathroom and made an emergency call, police said. He said he had broken into the house, the owner had come home, and that he was concerned the owner might have a gun.

The homeowner also called the police to report that he had found a man in the house.

Police with dogs took Chapek, 24, into custody "without incident," they said. He was booked for criminal trespass.

They did not say if the homeowner did in fact have a gun.

kcfanXIII · 03-08-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan

He at least deserved to be pistol whipped.....break into my house and expect pain unless your a little kid. No excuse otherwise. A grown person should expect to be either shot or at least beaten to a pulp for breaking into someone's house.

His first hint that he shouldn't have been there was the fact that he had to break in....after that he's lost all rights in my house.

this. I don't care what circumstances you think justify breaking into someone else's home but there are none. If you have to break in, you will be perceived as a threat. And i will protect my property.

**gblowfish** · 03-08-2011, 10:52 AM

Looks like the dude was getting practice at dropping the soap....

Fish · 03-08-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

no i haven't. And Im not saying i would in every situation. But when it comes to protecting my family and home its a no brainer. People don't break in to say hi.

Yes, but what if it wasn't a break in at all? Say it's a drunk idiot thinking your house is his. That's happened to me before back in the day, and I've been told by a neighbor that I did the same thing on a drunken bender. Say it's a handicapped teenager who's lost and doesn't know any better. Lots of situations I can think of where shooting first would ruin somebody or some family's lives.

warrior · 03-08-2011, 10:57 AM

He sounds pretty dumb, must be a raiders fan.

kcfanXIII · 03-08-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Yes, but what if it wasn't a break in at all? Say it's a drunk idiot thinking your house is his. That's happened to me before back in the day, and I've been told by a neighbor that I did the same thing on a drunken bender. Say it's a handicapped teenager who's lost and doesn't know any better. Lots of situations I can think of where shooting first would ruin somebody or some family's lives.

If you are drunk enough to walk in somebody elses house you need to quit drinking. I've been pretty drunk and never that stupid. Seriously how dumb do you have to be to do that? And for every what if you come up with ill come up with 10 more likely scenarios. Thieves murderers rapists, these are people that break in. I keep my doors locked so your mistaken entry theories are thrown out the window. I don't care how drunk you are, the key didn't work and that should be a sign. its also far more likely they are breaking in to commit a crime. I suppose you think criminals who get attacked by dogs or slip on your stairs have a right to sue? No... You break in to my house and you will wish for a trial by jury.

listopencil · 03-08-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Any of you guys ever been in a situation to possibly shoot a man? The complexity of those situations should boggle your mind. Once you pull that trigger you cant take it back.

I agree.

tooge · 03-08-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

If you are drunk enough to walk in somebody elses house you need to quit drinking. I've been pretty drunk and never that stupid. Seriously how dumb do you have to be to do that? And for every what if you come up with ill come up with 10 more likely scenarios. Thieves murderers rapists, these are people that break in. I keep my doors locked so your mistaken entry theories are thrown out the window. I don't care how drunk you are, the key didn't work and that should be a sign. its also far more likely they are breaking in to commit a crime. I suppose you think criminals who get attacked by dogs or slip on your stairs have a right to sue? No... You break in to my house and you will wish for a trial by jury.

I think most of us agree that if you are awakened by someone breaking into your house, you should get the gun and check it out. But, this was different. Once he found out the guy was in the bathroom shiting himself out of fear, then there is no need to go blasing through the door. Standing guard till the cops get there was a wise decision.

**Predarat** · 03-08-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

I think most of us agree that if you are awakened by someone breaking into your house, you should get the gun and check it out. But, this was different. Once he found out the guy was in the bathroom shiting himself out of fear, then there is no need to go blasing through the door. Standing guard till the cops get there was a wise decision.

He did the right thing but how often does someone break into someone elses house to just take a shower?

tooge · 03-08-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Predarat

He did the right thing but how often does someone break into someone elses house to just take a shower?

probably not very often. Bottom line is this; if you break into someone elses house, that person is gonna be pumpin some major adrenaline if they find you there, and there is a fair chance you will get shot, beat up, stabbed, etc. If you are a homeowner and someone breaks into your house, you will be pumped up on adrenaline, as will they, and it will be very difficult for you to exercise good judgement, but you should try to or you will end up in court.

KC native · 03-08-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Any of you guys ever been in a situation to possibly shoot a man? The complexity of those situations should boogle your mind. Once you pull that trigger you cant take it back.

Come on MO, you know this is CP where everyone runs 4.4 40 yd dashes, has 9" dicks, and are cold blooded home defending life takers.

Most people won't pull the trigger. They panic and freeze.

kcfanXIII · 03-08-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

I think most of us agree that if you are awakened by someone breaking into your house, you should get the gun and check it out. But, this was different. Once he found out the guy was in the bathroom shiting himself out of fear, then there is no need to go blasing through the door. Standing guard till the cops get there was a wise decision.

I might be misreading some posts but it sounds like a bunch of panzies telling me that i shouldn't act instinctively because it might be some drunk degenerate who couldnt figure out why his key wasn't working.

And i get its not as easy to pull the trigger as im making it sound. But like ive said, in a situation where my or my family's life is in danger i WILL protect them.

Fish · 03-08-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

If you are drunk enough to walk in somebody elses house you need to quit drinking. I've been pretty drunk and never that stupid. Seriously how dumb do you have to be to do that? And for every what if you come up with ill come up with 10 more likely scenarios. Thieves murderers rapists, these are people that break in. I keep my doors locked so your mistaken entry theories are thrown out the window. I don't care how drunk you are, the key didn't work and that should be a sign. its also far more likely they are breaking in to commit a crime. I suppose you think criminals who get attacked by dogs or slip on your stairs have a right to sue? No... You break in to my house and you will wish for a trial by jury.

Obviously you look for the worst in situations like that. OK then. Blast away. You're reaching pretty far up your ass though with your "criminal's right to sue" comment.... But I suppose it's a byproduct of living in constant fear of thieves, murderers, and rapists...

Wait... was that a knock at the door? Better give em a warning shot just in case....

Jenson71 · 03-08-2011, 12:06 PM

Usually when I'm really drunk, I laugh and tell jokes. Strangers invite me into their homes.

kcfanXIII · 03-08-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Obviously you look for the worst in situations like that. OK then. Blast away. You're reaching pretty far up your ass though with your "criminal's right to sue" comment.... But I suppose it's a byproduct of living in constant fear of thieves, murderers, and rapists...

Wait... was that a knock at the door? Better give em a warning shot just in case....

Once again.. Criminals don't knock. I don't live in constant fear. I understand most people aren't criminals in this world. But most that break in to homes are criminals. If you can't make that distinction you are an idiot.

Jenson71 · 03-08-2011, 12:13 PM

I think that the reactions are going to vary depending on whether you have small children or not.

For those who don't have small children, I think most of them would say that they would hesitate to shoot an intruder or be a lot more likely to work it out peacefully. But for those who do have small children, many of them might want the intruder to take the children and then leave peacefully.

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Jenson71 fides quaerens intellectum Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Casino cash: $8330900	I think that the reactions are going to vary depending on whether you have small children or not. For those who don't have small children, I think most of them would say that they would hesitate to shoot an intruder or be a lot more likely to work it out peacefully. But for those who do have small children, many of them might want the intruder to take the children and then leave peacefully.
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