*.* 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*

[penguinz]

Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Um the FDA is ****ing worthless anyway so no, it doesn't scare me.

One extremely important thing the FDA does in terms of drug development is mandating randomized clinical trials by proper methodology to eliminate bias, including: randomization of subjects, double-blinding, and selection of proper endpoints and accuracy of reporting for every drug on the market. Real drugs are also required to be standardized to contain certain amounts of the drug based on pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic principles to determine the efficacy of certain dosages. And we have a pretty good idea of how the drugs work mechanistically on a cellular level.

None of this, I repeat, none of this is required for dietary supplements as long as they print "This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease" on the label. That's insane to me.

But the real thing that baffles me is safety. Pharm drugs are treated as hazardous until they are proven to be safe (in relation to proven benefit) in trials, but supplements are assumed safe until they are proven to be hazardous. And, the burden of proof is on the FDA, who doesn't have the funding to test everything people put into their bodies.

That's not worth concern?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

**** the oatmeal.

I do believe that oatmeal is a great breakfast meal. Am I missing something here?

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I do believe that oatmeal is a great breakfast meal. Am I missing something here?

Whole oatmeal is OK. The flavored oatmeals have lots of excess sugar. It is just a lot of carbs.

[Hammock Parties]

I just think eating any grains for breakfast is a bad idea. Shit goes right through me and I'm hungry an hour later.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

At any time the FDA can also declare any ingredient "dangerous" and pressure companies to stop using it like they did DMAA recently. I see both sides. Some companies are worthless and will spike products and the FDA has many issues as well. Just stupid shit like going after Cheerios for saying they may reduce cholesterol levels. In the end be smart to your research and know what companies are solid what the ingredients are in each product and consult a doctor before putting stuff in your body. Take some personal responsibility rather then taking something because Jane Skinnyass down the street says she lost weight on it.

See my post to lew. I don't think you guys are doing hardcore shit that will end in a kidney or liver transplant (protein, creatine are pretty innocuous), but I am just curious what the draw is toward the stuff.

I don't want to argue, because you can put whatever you want into your body. But I clicked on that link in the Royals thread, and that shit looks absolutely disturbing.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

I just think eating any grains for breakfast is a bad idea. Shit goes right through me and I'm hungry an hour later.

What do you eat for breakfast? Fruit?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

What do you eat for breakfast? Fruit?

Either an apple or scrambled eggs usually.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Turkey Bacon
Eggs
Yogurt
Low fat Milk (I got a small container to only use in coffee and oatmeal)
Stir Fry sauce
Carrots
Broccoli
Variety flavored oatmeal
Steak (special treat)
Chicken
Mio water flavor
Strawberries
Bananas
Turkey
Nuts
Tuna
Salmon
Salsa
Sugar Cubes (15 cals per cube. Only 3 a day for coffee)
Asparagus
Apples
Whole wheat Pasta
Pasta sauce

I think I did pretty good today at the grocery store. But I didn't get pussy. Sorry Simply Red. I think they were out.

I'd skip the turkey bacon and go regular 'center cut' - there's hardly a difference. Plus turkey bacon is way more processed.

[Hammock Parties]

Turkey bacon is just another scam.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

See my post to lew. I don't think you guys are doing hardcore shit that will end in a kidney or liver transplant (protein, creatine are pretty innocuous), but I am just curious what the draw is toward the stuff.

I don't want to argue, because you can put whatever you want into your body. But I clicked on that link in the Royals thread, and that shit looks absolutely disturbing.

What looked disturbing? That's pretty weak compared to a lot of stuff on the market.

You aren't going to need a liver or kidney transplant unless you are running methyls for 5-6 months instead of 5-6 weeks.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

Turkey bacon is just another scam.

It is only 2.5 grams and 35 calories per slice. I don't think it's too bad. It's pretty good.

Not sure why it's a scam?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It is only 2.5 grams and 35 calories per slice. I don't think it's too bad. It's pretty good.

Not sure why it's a scam?

http://eatthis.menshealth.com/node/77586

Pork bacon’s got a bad rap for wreaking havoc on your cholesterol. But is turkey bacon really any better?

The truth: Stick with the pig. As far as calories go, the difference between “healthy” turkey bacon and “fatty” pig is negligible—and depending on the slice, turkey might sometimes tip the scales a touch more. Additionally, while turkey is indeed a leaner meat, turkey bacon isn’t made from 100 percent bird: One look at the ingredients list will show a long line of suspicious additives and extras that can’t possibly add anything of nutritional value.

And finally, the sodium content of the turkey bacon is actually higher than what you’ll find in the kind that oinks—so if you’re worried about your blood pressure, opting for the original version is usually the smarter move.

What You Really Want: Regular bacon. We like Hormel Black Label and Oscar Mayer Center Cut bacon for some low-cal, low-additive options.

Thanks for reading!

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

What looked disturbing? That's pretty weak compared to a lot of stuff on the market.

You aren't going to need a liver or kidney transplant unless you are running methyls for 5-6 months instead of 5-6 weeks.

How they market these substances without putting them through the rigors of trials. The "research" cited isn't done independently and likely is done with certain end-point in mind, regardless of the actual results.

I wouldn't even think about taking a PROVEN hepatotoxic agent like methyltestosterone, so why would I pump myself with shit with unknown excretion mechanisms and safety profiles?

The safety profiles may never be known, honestly, because there's no financial incentive for the makers of these supplements to do the studies. People will buy them based on their outrageous claims, and the overworked FDA has no chance at regulating these things.

[Simply Red]

I've prepared some chicken meatballs & I'm eating before my workout - just to piss you all off.

[Hammock Parties]

Eat that shit after you workout, nimrod.