Tarell Brown fired his agent for a really good reason.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Than what is the point of having an agent?

To negotiate on yourbehalf. Do you know what happens if you don't know you're own contract? You get ****ed over.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Than what is the point of having an agent?

To negotiate the contract and help write it in a way that it is legally binding. Not to play babysitter and make sure the dumbass player is reminded of a pretty big clause in the contract. I guarantee you that the agent let this guy know about the clause when the contract was negotiated.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

To negotiate the contract and help write it in a way that it is legally binding. Not to play babysitter and make sure the dumbass player is reminded of a pretty big clause in the contract. I guarantee you that the agent let this guy know about the clause when the contract was negotiated.

BINGO !

[-King-]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Yeah this. It is his own responsibility and talk about 2 million dollars it would be in his own interest to take note what is in the contract and ask the rep questions or read the damn thing himself.

Not really. Most people wouldn't understand the language the lawyers use in these contracts. That's the point of an agent. To read the contract and interpret it to the player.

If I'm paying someone a certain % of my money to orchestrate contracts and negotiate on my behalf, they better tell me things like this.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by -King-

Not really. Most people wouldn't understand the language the lawyers use in these contracts. That's the point of an agent. To read the contract and interpret it to the player.

If I'm paying someone a certain % of my money to orchestrate contracts and negotiate on my behalf, they better tell me things like this.

OTOH, the agent lost money too so I bet it was explained, but he wasn't listening, only seeing dollar signs.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by -King-

Not really. Most people wouldn't understand the language the lawyers use in these contracts. That's the point of an agent. To read the contract and interpret it to the player.

If I'm paying someone a certain % of my money to orchestrate contracts and negotiate on my behalf, they better tell me things like this.

All that should be done before he signs on the dotted line. From my understanding how negotiations work is the agent goes back and forth from player to front office and informs both sides what kind of deal needs to get done. He should be telling in detail what is in the contract and the player damn well should be asking questions. No real excuse for the player to not have known about a little detail that he should show up for team practice for 2mil$$. Can blame the agent but it's still his responsibility before he signs the paper what is in it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I think you have to take responsibility for yourself.

That's not exactly fine print in terms of the contract wording.

Yes the agent should be fired IMO, but I don't feel sorry for the guy as it's his own responsibility to know the basic framework of his contract.

For you and I? Sure.

But if you hire someone to do nothing but monitor your food and make sure there are no peanuts in it, then you get used to knowing that said food montitorer is monitoring your food and as yet you have not gone into shock from eating a peanut.

Then somebody slips in a peanut, he misses it, you go into shock. Why? Because you hired this man for precisely this reason and in the course of your working relationship together, you have ceded that control to him. If he never existed, you'd have seen the peanut, but dammit you weren't looking for it because that's what you pay this idiot for.

That's the role of agents - to literally do all of this. They're business managers, contract handlers and guys that stay on top of their client. Tarell Brown hired this agent and likely paid him 5-10% of his hard earned salary to make damn sure that contract terms, schedules, etc... aren't his problem.

I don't see how it's still incumbent upon Brown to do his agent's work.

View Tarell Brown as a business. View him as the sole owner and product developer. Now view his agent as the CEO and CFO. That's his agents role here - to administer the business. Brown's role is simply to create the product. If the agent forgets to pay taxes and balance the books while Brown is out building the next money-making product for the company, Browns only failure is that he trusted the wrong guy.

To blame Brown for not catching contract terms is silly - he hired this man and paid him a six-figure income precisely so he wouldn't have to worry about that sort of thing.

Now if you're the 49ers, however, you know you have Brown as a pending FA and perhaps you may want to use this as a jumping off point for a potential contract extension. "Sure, Tarell; we'll honor your bonus, but as part of this extension that's a hair under market and structured in a team friendly manner".

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I think you have to take responsibility for yourself.

That's not exactly fine print in terms of the contract wording.

Yes the agent should be fired IMO, but I don't feel sorry for the guy as it's his own responsibility to know the basic framework of his contract.

What's your familiarity with the structure of NFL contracts and their negotiations?

I mean I'm assuming you're not just speaking irresponsibly of things you know nothing about. What NFL contracts have you looked over? You seem to have some knowledge about what is and what isn't clearly stated to the player.

I mean for all I know these contracts are 27 pages and very confusing for the average person. I have no idea at all what an NFL contract looks like.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

What's your familiarity with the structure of NFL contracts and their negotiations?

I mean I'm assuming you're not just speaking irresponsibly of things you know nothing about. What NFL contracts have you looked over? You seem to have some knowledge about what is and what isn't clearly stated to the player.

I mean for all I know these contracts are 27 pages and very confusing for the average person. I have no idea at all what an NFL contract looks like.

Depending on the amount of bonuses and/or incentives involved the addendum can get up to 10 or 20 pages or more.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/5-components-of-an-NFL-contract-that-may-surprise-you.html
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[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I think you have to take responsibility for yourself.

That's not exactly fine print in terms of the contract wording.

Yes the agent should be fired IMO, but I don't feel sorry for the guy as it's his own responsibility to know the basic framework of his contract.

BINGO !!!

[KC native]

I hope his agent has a good E&O policy because he is going to be sued.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by KC native

I hope his agent has a good E&O policy because he is going to be sued.

Sued for what?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Sued for what?

I don't know about sued, but I bet he lost a nice chunk of that $2 million himself. What's going commission for agents?

Edit: A quick search says about 4% on avg so that's 80K from the agent. Not as much as I thought.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Sued for what?

He paid for a service from the agent and the agent failed to adequately provide that service resulting in $2 mil damage.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Sued for what?

For having a total dumbshit for a client.