Football You should be worried about Rivers - Page 8

**Buck** · 10-01-2013, 08:09 PM

Dude is straight up beasting this year.

He just set the all time record for accuracy in a 400 yard game, and there is only one other QB even close to as good as him statistically this season (Manning, duh). Manning is statistically better in every category, actually he leads the NFL in every important category, but Rivers is right behind him.

I think a lot of you were assuming 2 wins against us this year, but what I've seen from Rivers the last 4 games has me more excited than ever. He's never played this good, and he used to be considered "Elite."

I'll compare Rivers, Manning, and Brees because they seem like the 3 best QBs to compare as of now. Brady is suffering with his shitty receiving corps, or else I'd throw him in here too.

Yards
Manning - 1470 (1st)
Brees - 1434 (2nd)
Rivers - 1199 (7th)

Comp %
Manning - 75.0% (1st)
Rivers - 73.9% (2nd)
Brees - 66.9% (4th)

Touchdowns
Manning - 16 (1st)
Rivers - 11 (2nd)
Brees - 10 (3rd)

Passer Rating
Manning - 138.0 (1st)
Rivers - 118.8 (2nd)
Brees - 103.8 (5th)

Total QBR
Manning - 91.4 (1st)
Rivers - 81.4 (2nd)
Brees - 74.9 (4th)

Interceptions (Starters Only)
Manning - 0 (1st)
Rivers - 2 (T-4th)
Brees - 4 (~T-18th)

Apologies to Aaron Rodgers for not having played 4 games or else I'd use him in comparison too.

warrior · 10-02-2013, 05:50 AM

Next thing you know the dozen or so charger fans will have their own board.

**bevischief** · 10-02-2013, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by warrior

Next thing you know the dozen or so charger fans will have their own board.

Don't forget those 49ers too...

Mother****erJones · 10-02-2013, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Whatever. Glad you're happy with our leftovers.

Now he's leftovers

a second ago you wanted teams to quit raiding your staff

vailpass · 10-02-2013, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Now he's leftovers

a second ago you wanted teams to quit raiding your staff

He should have went with "sloppy seconds".

Rasputin · 10-02-2013, 06:26 AM

I think Rivers should be worried about Tamba Hali, Justin Houston, & D Poe rape.

Sandy Vagina · 10-02-2013, 06:28 AM

Rivers has been much better than I expected, after seeing the turnover machine he's been over the last 2 seasons. SD is someone to watch, BUT they are not a team I expect to get close enough to Denver and KC for a playoff seed. They just lost Floyd and a big pass rush threat in Freeney too. I don't think they stay as competitive as they have been. 7 or 8 win season.

jspchief · 10-02-2013, 06:31 AM

Chargers are definitely playing better than I thought they would.

I'm still not sure I'll ever be worried about Rivers. The guy has a penchant for melting down at the perfect moment.

King_Chief_Fan · 10-02-2013, 06:34 AM

Thanks for the warning

KC defense says hi

SeeingRed · 10-02-2013, 06:54 AM

I grabbed him as a back up QB in my fantasy football league but dude has been straight up ballin! I will bench him against the Chiefs and use Russell Wilson (if nothing else on principle alone lol) but in fantasy terms i got him as a steal in round 9 and hes been a beast

KC native · 10-02-2013, 07:47 AM

At least this is better than your "funny" video thread.

FishingRod · 10-02-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeingRed

I grabbed him as a back up QB in my fantasy football league but dude has been straight up ballin! I will bench him against the Chiefs and use Russell Wilson (if nothing else on principle alone lol) but in fantasy terms i got him as a steal in round 9 and hes been a beast

Did the same thing. Had to start him last week and he kicked butt. If I had just about anyone else other than Aron Rodgers as my starter he would keep the job. I'm still iffy on if Rodgers can score mone on Detroit this week than Rivers can on the Raiders.

Brooklyn · 10-02-2013, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Our defense is as garbage as garbage gets, but our offense can consistently put up 30. That will beat plenty of teams.

Points per game season average below, minus the game vs. the Chiefs so as not to skew things. Scores against KC in parentheses.

Jacksonville - 9.6 (0)
Dallas - 27.6 (16)
Philadelphia - 27.6 (16)
New York - 18 (7)

so basically the Chiefs are holding their opponents two scores below their usual offensive output. I don't doubt that the Chargers can put up points against KC (especially with Rivers' long ball accuracy), but I fully expect them to cap out around 20-25. Chiefs are averaging 25.5, but as we know a good chunk of that has come from defense and special teams scores. Overall that seems to net out in favor of the Chiefs, especially if they can rattle Rivers early and watch him implode.

Point is, Chiefs have made a habit of cutting most offenses off well below their scoring average.

Mile High Mania · 10-02-2013, 08:09 AM

Rivers is good, he has a lot of talent, but he's not a leader...

Rivers is still living the shadow of "what could have been" had they kept Drew Brees or actually had kept Eli Manning and not traded him away for Rivers. Eli and Big Ben were both from that draft and they have 4 SB rings on 5 trips. Drew Brees has a ring...

Rivers is really battling to prove he's not in the Matt Schaub group from that draft class... Matt can be just as flashy with the stats, but he's not really a leader either.

So, worried about Rivers? Sure, there's talent there and they can score, but he can get rattled and frustrated quite easily. It's good that 2-2 has you full of piss and vinegar again though.

vailpass · 10-02-2013, 08:12 AM

Phyllis should be able to sue norm for career damage...

Mile High Mania · 10-02-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn

Points per game season average below, minus the game vs. the Chiefs so as not to skew things. Scores against KC in parentheses.

Jacksonville - 9.6 (0)
Dallas - 27.6 (16)
Philadelphia - 27.6 (16)
New York - 18 (7)

so basically the Chiefs are holding their opponents two scores below their usual offensive output. I don't doubt that the Chargers can put up points against KC (especially with Rivers' long ball accuracy), but I fully expect them to cap out around 20-25. Chiefs are averaging 25.5, but as we know a good chunk of that has come from defense and special teams scores. Overall that seems to net out in favor of the Chiefs, especially if they can rattle Rivers early and watch him implode.

Point is, Chiefs have made a habit of cutting most offenses off well below their scoring average.

The bold part is a bit confusing... but, if the basis is simply "KC's defense needs to play lights out because KC's offense sputters", then I get it.

10-01-2013, 08:09 PM
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $8319900	You should be worried about Rivers Dude is straight up beasting this year. He just set the all time record for accuracy in a 400 yard game, and there is only one other QB even close to as good as him statistically this season (Manning, duh). Manning is statistically better in every category, actually he leads the NFL in every important category, but Rivers is right behind him. I think a lot of you were assuming 2 wins against us this year, but what I've seen from Rivers the last 4 games has me more excited than ever. He's never played this good, and he used to be considered "Elite." I'll compare Rivers, Manning, and Brees because they seem like the 3 best QBs to compare as of now. Brady is suffering with his shitty receiving corps, or else I'd throw him in here too. Yards Manning - 1470 (1st) Brees - 1434 (2nd) Rivers - 1199 (7th) Comp % Manning - 75.0% (1st) Rivers - 73.9% (2nd) Brees - 66.9% (4th) Touchdowns Manning - 16 (1st) Rivers - 11 (2nd) Brees - 10 (3rd) Passer Rating Manning - 138.0 (1st) Rivers - 118.8 (2nd) Brees - 103.8 (5th) Total QBR Manning - 91.4 (1st) Rivers - 81.4 (2nd) Brees - 74.9 (4th) Interceptions (Starters Only) Manning - 0 (1st) Rivers - 2 (T-4th) Brees - 4 (~T-18th) Apologies to Aaron Rodgers for not having played 4 games or else I'd use him in comparison too.
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10-02-2013, 08:09 AM	#118
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3647229	Rivers is good, he has a lot of talent, but he's not a leader... Rivers is still living the shadow of "what could have been" had they kept Drew Brees or actually had kept Eli Manning and not traded him away for Rivers. Eli and Big Ben were both from that draft and they have 4 SB rings on 5 trips. Drew Brees has a ring... Rivers is really battling to prove he's not in the Matt Schaub group from that draft class... Matt can be just as flashy with the stats, but he's not really a leader either. So, worried about Rivers? Sure, there's talent there and they can score, but he can get rattled and frustrated quite easily. It's good that 2-2 has you full of piss and vinegar again though. __________________
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